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i Know its old but i never had this question answered.....

why does seraph have a golden glow (http://www.czech-ware.net/mojzik/lopuch/seraph+.jpg) when neo looks at him in reloded?

um it wasn't the only thing with the golden glow.. it was the same golden glow that he saw on the machines wasn't it. I think the golden glow is how machines and programs would look in he matrix. the funny part of it is smith and the other agents in matrix part one didn't have a golden glow they had the same old green matrix code look.. remember when neo killed smith in the hallway??

i assume its because of who wrote his code
i think instead of being made by the maachines
he was actually written by the merril vynchen
but then he turned and protected the oracle

also i think is jus to show how different he is
and that hes no normal program
he actually has purpose

ohh good theory the merovingians prodigal son.. yeh now i get it. but i mean. the machines has the same glow, as did smith. youget what i'm saying. so the purpose thing makes sense relative to the programs smith and sariff who both were free of the system and worked of they own accors but in the real word when neo got blind and was seeing the machines in the code form they too had the orange glow. What do you think that is, the machines glow

ohh good theory the merovingians prodigal son.. yeh now i get it. but i mean. the machines has the same glow, as did smith. youget what i'm saying. so the purpose thing makes sense relative to the programs smith and sariff who both were free of the system and worked of they own accors but in the real word when neo got blind and was seeing the machines in the code form they too had the orange glow. What do you think that is, the machines glow

that orange glow u speak of, didnt he start seeing everyone lik that after he lost his sight

Yup, he sure did. Guess smith wasn't that special afterall

Um I really dont remember neo seeing anybody but smith and the machines after his loss of sight.. think they never showed him looking at trinity with the orange vision and the last person neo saw was trinity there for I believe its the programs and machines that have that resulting glow an electromagnetic glow maybe.

Um... why are you linking seraph to the merovingian? wasnt seraph linked more to the oracle than anybody else, i am guessing that it was because of the oracle why he had the orange glow. He was exempt from most of the rules of the matrix so i would assume he would have a special glow, what i wondering is if the oracle and all the other peeps (merovingian, architect etc) had special glowy stuff too

Um Are you kidding me. There is a link between the merovingian and sariff. Most definatly There also seems to be beef between the oracle and the merovingian as well.

This is taken fromthe matrix script


(Hel Club - VIP lounge)
Merovingian: What in the hell? *laughs* I don't believe this.
Merovingian: *to the DJ* Hey. Hey! *to Seraph* The prodigal child returns. L'ange sans ailes (Trans: The angel without wings). Are you here for the bounty, Seraph? *laughs heartily* Tell me, how many bullets are there in those guns? I don't know, but I don't think you have enough.
Seraph: We only want to talk.
Merovingian: Oh yes, I'm sure you do, you have fought through hell to do so, yes? I'll tell you what I'll do. Put down the guns and I will promise you safe passage out of here.
Seraph: All three of us.
Merovingian: Oh yes, yes. Of course.

{Trinity, Seraph, and Morpheus put down the guns and are escorted up the stairs}

Dknight u love it wayyyyyyyyyyyyy 2 much
but yep dats di link
prodigal son * one who betrays and returns apologetic in need of favors

so i say its the whole how he was prgrammed thing linked with of course freedom of action
though in honesty that doesnt matter
why?
cus smith still had green matrix code in him
when u say ....
view the scene where he converts the oracle
they were all green matrix filled smith'
so i say is who code u

Yo Genius yute. That Makes alot of sense, Imean the merovingian is a known coder for the fun of it. In matrix reloaded the restaurant scene


Merovingian: No. Wrong. Choice is an illusion, created between those with power, and those without. Look there, at that woman. My God, just look at her. Affecting everyone around her, so obvious, so bourgeois, so boring. But wait... Watch - you see, I have sent her dessert, a very special dessert. I wrote it myself. It starts so simply, each line of the program creating a new effect, just like poetry. First, a rush... heat... her heart flutters. You can see it, Neo, yes? She does not understand why - is it the wine? No. What is it then, what is the reason? And soon it does not matter, soon the why and the reason are gone, and all that matters is the feeling itself. This is the nature of the universe. We struggle against it, we fight to deny it, but it is of course pretense, it is a lie. Beneath our poised appearance, the truth is we are completely out of control. Causality. There is no escape from it, we are forever slaves to it. Our only hope, our only peace is to understand it, to understand the `why.' `Why' is what separates us from them, you from me. `Why' is the only real social power, without it you are powerless. And this is how you come to me, without `why,' without power. Another link in the chain. But fear not, since I have seen how good you are at following orders, I will tell you what to do next. Run back, and give the fortune teller this message: Her time is almost up. Now I have some real business to do, I will say adieu and goodbye.


Yep He's a coder So i guess he could have been the real father [ creator ] of seraph which would add real meaning to the prodigal son statment he made. I never thought of the "coded by who theory" good one bmobile.

Um... why are you linking seraph to the merovingian? wasnt seraph linked more to the oracle than anybody else, i am guessing that it was because of the oracle why he had the orange glow. He was exempt from most of the rules of the matrix so i would assume he would have a special glow, what i wondering is if the oracle and all the other peeps (merovingian, architect etc) had special glowy stuff too


well the oracle didnt have a golden glow(see revolutions when smiths are taking over the oracles body) she definatly glowed green much more that the smiths

neither did neo in reloaded(neo brings trinity back to life)but more than trinity but not half as much at the oracle

Yo Genius yute. That Makes alot of sense, Imean the merovingian is a known coder for the fun of it. In matrix reloaded the restaurant scene



Yep He's a coder So i guess he could have been the real father [ creator ] of seraph which would add real meaning to the prodigal son statment he made. I never thought of the "coded by who theory" good one bmobile.


well i figured that too but why did he have a golden glow.....

well noivaj like we have been saying
its due to the coder of the program
neo is not a program so he will show as matrix code
as will trinity
as will the oracle but she is matrix code

think of the orange code or glow as a result of a program creating a program
even in that scene that dknight talkin bout
notice once her code meets the pie or cake
she explodes and its "ORANGE"

so ur answer is saref is orange due to his program being written by the Frenchman

I disagree with the Frenchman theory. I prefer to think that the difference isn't the frenchman but the presence of purpose. Therefore while built into the matrix are various systems of control and rules some sectors are renegades and therefore affect things like that.
Saref is orange because he isn't mandated by the overarching rules of the matrix. Everybody else, including humans (liberated and otherwise) are mandated to act within the confines of the rules. That is why Trinity looks as green as an enslaved human. That is also why agents assume that colour and each working system of control is green. That is why smith was intially green code. Smith continued to be green when he went renegade because he was actually a virus and he controlled all the rules and functions of the matrix.

The frenchman is still subject to a bigger scheme of things- namely the architect. He is a renegade and creates programmes to serve him. His rules are still subject to the grand design within the matrix, which is overseen by the architect.
Remember that the rooms behind the matrix are also outside of the normal rules and therefore look different from everything/where else. Purpose is the differece- why is something here- as opposed to french affiliate or not.

PS. Nero saw Smith in the human world because he is the ONE. He has full control of the machine world and can see through persons under matrix influence. Case in point- he stopped the sentinels.

ON a real I thought there was a matrix within a matrix thing going on for the neo stoping the sentinnels. Rules of the real world simply cannot be broken gravity is gravity, you dont deny it on the real solid as a rock earth. but then if you should apply the questions of the matrix to the real wold can you be sure the real wold is real. DO YOU THINK THATS AIR THAT YOUR BREATING ETC..
its really a tricky topic. I belive neo who became more machine like after his visit to the architect. { did you realize the screens behind him calculating the probability answers neo would give to each questions or statment the architect made } all proved to work as his response was shown on one of the screens. He was re linked by the architect to the system, his code was traceable i'ld say. Now that i belive gave him the ability to comunicate with the setninels by force which lead to him being able to stop them in the real wold.. Neo seeing smith i believe was total emp. He sees emp's obviosly, he saw no real peopole. they showed neo looking at no real person, remember he looked at the guy "who doesn't look exactly like smith does he" and all he coudl see was smith's aura. think of it as an electromagnetic glow. think of the machines that he saw a they entered 01 "machine city" they all had that orrange glow. Its an emp glow, electromagnetic pulse or a presence so to speak.

Dknight i agree
after his eyes are burnt
he says trinity and there is no implication he can see her
he says trin i wish u could see wat i see
then he gets aware of her presence by voice and feels the damage done to her not sees it
as far as smith being a virus i can agree with that theory but i dunt see why that allows his code to still be green
how was he limited?
if u think about it he beat neo
and neo wasnt bound by the matrix, but we dont see him look at his self suh we cant see

so freedom thing makes a bit of sense
i actually feel like thats a major reason
but we have to use words from the movie and scenarios to make theory
and prodigal son and the pie scene link the frenchmen to saref
so id go with that theory

wat i wanna know is if yall think neo is dead??

thats really touchy you know why. if you followed cross into the continuation of the matrix which was done in the pc video game the matrix online it would sorta of accenuate or bring the topic further to the surface. Morpheus didn't like the idea that neo's remains where still in "01" [ machine city ]. So he went on a mission to return neos' body to zion for proper burial. he requested for the remains and was denied. he started a war by destroying some plants important to the machines 'within the matrix'. The ending result morpheus was murdered. by a mask wearing robot, the scene was super cool too. the thing emptied the clip in morpheus. no this leads us all to the question why wouldn't they return neo's remains.
I had a theory. The super agents [ like smith ] are past annomolies just like neo so to speak. who are kept for situations like the occurence of a new annomoly. The past annomolies are then re-injected into the system as an agent to try and balance out the effects, the equation. the person. so maybe they held neo on that accord?

What do you guys got?

wow
mi lost rite now cus wat u jus seh to me new
i never saw or playd that game
suh i know not of which u speak

gimmie 24 hrs

Yep the matrix online continued the movie. They killed morpheus as the first major concpiracy movement. I check in with the game to see whats up from time to time. so i can have an idea of whats happening with the matrix. I really wish the matrix online was an xbox game but then i woulnd't benefit anyay cause xbox live aint for modded users.

Morpheus can't die... Nooooooooooo

yer he's dead as an agent that faced neo on a bad day when he didn't get ne from trinity :D.

what i would like to know is why did the machines have to use neo to inject the virus throughout the smiths, why couldnt they have used a regular person who was hooked up and absorbed by smith.