If i remember correctly orichimaru's goal or ambition is to learn everything [ think back to ep where sarutobi the fourth hokage was fighting orochimaru and had a flash back to his first encouter with him where he could have killed him.sarutobi him asked him what is he trying to do he said he wanted to learn every thing every jutsu etc.. ]. I wonder why he chose the imortality method.. why not work on a time jutsu. for example similarly to itachi's mangekyou sharingan where he had kakashi under the jutsu for a few seconds but it felt like ages. he could probably train in a environment like that. huh huh. what do you think. I mean this would escape him the embarrasment of biting guys on their necks and so on.

Your theory sux ass. Leave my forum now!!!!!!

Anyway, think about it DK. You are old, you want to learn every jutsu in the world. Why slow down time. Your going to die anyway just a little later than normal, meaning you learned every jutsu in the world... for no reason cuz your dead. But if you can live for every proving that you are the pwningest ninja then you serve a purpose, Hence immortality

so skill, if thats not orochimaru's goal, then what is?? Wey him groupie dey, Malloc, whats Orochimaru's goal.

who better to know his goal than his apprentice...found it strange that he has not responded...maybe he's too excited !!! hey bwoy malloc-x explain ur father goal

sarutobi: orochimaru what do u hope to accomplish?
orochimaru: everthing

wh y do u guys hate evil so much? without evil entertainment would be boring. if it was for evil in anime, movies and video games wouldn't they be boring? if it wasn't for evil we wouldn't have the technology that we have today. because of world war 2 huge andvancements in computers and aeroplanes were made. so evil plays an important role, it may be a loosin role but its improtant none the less

I was just explaining why Orochimaru wants immortality instead of the slowing time thingy wat DK was talking about, of course i agree that his goal is to do everything.

i think orochimaru...learn every jitsu and imortality.. think about it.. you live on..
and if you think about the whole evil ambition thing.. wats not evil about watching others die and suffer the likes of old age!!!

if you chose time.. then doesnt that usualy catch up with you anyway..and then you are stufed either way!!

the imortality is every evil vilians plot and its good they keep the tradition ^__^

sarutobi: orochimaru what do u hope to accomplish?
orochimaru: everthing

wh y do u guys hate evil so much? without evil entertainment would be boring. if it was for evil in anime, movies and video games wouldn't they be boring? if it wasn't for evil we wouldn't have the technology that we have today. because of world war 2 huge andvancements in computers and aeroplanes were made. so evil plays an important role, it may be a loosin role but its improtant none the less



Oh shut up malloc ! ! ! and stop freaking out people by ur speech !

people condem what they dont understand

my word malloc have sense, thats so true people do condem what they don't understand. :eusa_thin So is that Orochimaru isn't evil but the methods he uses to accomplish his dreams are by the so called good wrong??

Orochimaru is evil. Make no mistake.

exactly @profound there is no two ways about this. this dood is border line psycho. screw the borderline he been on the other side of the fence from birth.. I"m still wondering if he's human or a junchuriki. I mean suppose he was the first in akatsuki to gain a youma and then left with the power.

think about it, would naruto be as much fun without oro. the best heroes in the world would be nothin without their arch nemesis. how fun would batman be without joker. how fun would fma be without the 7 deadly sins. u guys see what i am gettin at

and oro is evil, if he wasn't i wouldn't be a fan. evil people run the world

It shall be ohhh sooo sweeet to see naruto beat the bitch out of him. Can imagine the man morph into the fox and.....

Orochimaru is evil, cuz his deeds eat away at his soul till he has very little to no human left, the man has not one shred of fear, u saw him face 2 sannins with no hands and a big **** smile on his face. the slow down time thing sucks i agree wid skill and chidori, time will catch up with you, but 2 switch bodies that is the untimate for of imortality, look at edward father in fullmetal alchemist. and finally, dats right, ppl condemn what they dont understand, but whats in evil to understand, one of its purposes is to be condemned!! or maybe the other way around, its goods purpose to condemn evil, evils purpose is just to exist...

EDIT:: naruto beating orochimar = impossible, he knows infinately more jutsu than naruto all he has to do is summon the first and second hokages again and naruto dead past ashes

Naruto beating Orochimaru isnt exactly impossible (ie assuming the theory that orochimaru is a youma is bs). Remember unlike naruto orochimaru has limited chakra which means he can get a beatdown as long as naruto wants to. What if diedara or whatever got the punch that naruto wanted to give him when he left the clay clone? Him woulda dead 2 time off one punch lol

Naruto can continue summoning shadow clones all day and still have enough chakra left to do like 12 full powered rasengans. Orochimaru going get tired. The thing that orochimaru has over naruto is the fact that he has more jutsu's and also has more sense so he can think about his moves and then do it. Naruto just goin run in and fight like a madman.

Its not just to know many jutsu though, you need the chakra to do them.

remember naruto almost died when fightin kabuto, even the fox could NOT heal him because kabuto cut the cords leadin to his heart, so he couldn't use his chakra or the fox's chakra. tsunade had to come and heal him. so naruto is not invincible

Thats y i made sure to state that what orochi has over naruto is the fact that he has sense and naruto is a dumbass. If it was just a good ol fashioned brawl wid no jutsu's or techniques etc naruto woulda win out of sheer power. But because we have more factors to figure out Orochi would pwn him

Orochi, isnt a medical expert, if he was he wouldn't need tsunade. THerefore i dont see oro beating naruto jus like that, plus he's been rolling with jiraya for the past 3 years i dont see him as the dumbo he once was.

IF NARUTO IS so good why did he run from diedera, u have people goin to high school for 5 years and dont have any CXCs. plus jiraiya type of trainin is like naruto go do this while i go look girls come find when u done. and oh yeah lend me some money nuh.

he is not a medical expert but he could learn that one technique. he is a genius after all thats why the 3rd favored him

Ok before answering the thread I must comment. What would the world be without eivl? We would not know anything about evil if it wasn't there before and would find much better ways to ocupy our time. True we condemn fear and hate what we don't understand or cannot control but anyway I will stop now before I go off I've had to answer this kind of question way too many times.

The dude is obviously sick and evil and he wants to learn every Jutsu and live forever as he said himself.

Unless Naruto gets some "brains" Then he will never be able to beat Orochimaru withou some stroke of luck(remebering him fighting Kiba)

the legendary fart how could i forget

Yo, Malloc-X, u a di boss, evil is di shiznit. "ur face is the reflection of ur mind." I guess Orochimaru-sama just wants to keep his jutsus fresh and adequate. Whats wrong with wanting 2 achieve something and die a happy man, or thing, or whatever it was that "death_knight" said he may be... But death doesn't come with immortality does it? My point is, "lef di man mek him strive"

ur face is a reflection of ur mind, dah chat deh haaaaaaaad

To be honest naruto doesn't deserve the right to kill Orochimaru. I think Sasuke should do it. Now calm down virus. I'm just thinking Sasuke should get all the power he can from orochimaru and then just double cross him.

look at him, he should be feared and revered. show some reverence. look for his return with is new apprentice. uchiha sasuke

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With this thread, i am officially worried about Malloc-x

I dont even think sasuke will be the person who kills him. The only person(s) who i think have the right and the ability to kill orochimaru-sama is a sannin. I doubt it will be Tsunade because i am sure she will die like every other hokage in the series has... by protecting the village, and i dont think orochimaru really wants to destroy konoha anymore now that he has his uchiha.
So therefore the only sannin left that will kill him is jiraiya and i think the fight will be of such that both of them die, killing all 3 sannins at one time, leaving room for a new batch of sannin... or something like that...

Just my thoughts

i agree with ur theory, that is what should happen. then them make naruto z or naruto gt with some brand new nins like konohamaru-chan starin it and sasuke bein the main villain like oro is

Lol, Naruto Z wid Sasuke, having the same earrings and looking as freaky as orochi. and konohamaru being a jounin

Well thats basically what its shaping up 2 be, tsunade is training sakura, orochimar is training sasuke and perverted hermit is training naruto. all three sannins were on the same team, all three apprentices are on the same team, ones a screwup, ones dark and ones a girl.....those three could be the next sannins who knows

losers. lol. shopping for new friends if anyones interested :D. Um your theory sorta seem sound with the jiraiya vs orochimaru fight. Thinking back to the fact that jiraiya and orochimaru are basically mirror images of naruto and sasuke in the respective order, It makes alot of sense. Similarly how nobody else deserves the right to clean sasuke's clock other than naruto. HOWEVER kishimoto likes to do things his way. I honestly was upset when rocklee didn't get the chance to decimate neji. Rocklee really put hard work into the lotus for neji. his speed was way up there so neji couldn't even perform the kaiten to protect him self. Basically its all up to kishimoto IMHO.

edit: well said lexlimitless. EAch of the sanins' apprentice's are exactly like they where when younger.

Wat you mean in your opinion its left up to kishimoto... its fact man. IF KISHIMOTO WANTS EVERYBODY IN THE HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE TO EXPLODE AND DIE INSTANTANEOUSLY HE WILL DO IT!!!

I remember it being discussed in another forum that japanese culture is based alot on the circle of life thing where history repeats itself... it is basically a case of history repeating itself with the sanins and kakashi's team

your right, it is up 2 the writer but it would be in bad faith to have naruto kill orochimaru, if it was any of the young guys at all it would have to be sasuke, but i would much prefer the sannins or the akatsuki planning revenge.... though really, to kill orochimar would be a major let down for the entire story, orochimaru is too evil to kill without causing a major stir, u cant kill the main antagonist till the very end, evil must prevail and build up in tandem with good to a climax.

Orochimaru should have died when the Fourth cursed him. I think his death will come swiftly and they will find something else to have the show about. I mean gee- they are having half a year of fillers, they can get another story. Besides, they can show Naruto realize his dream to be a Hokage. Naruto Z sounds like a cool idea.

your right, it is up 2 the writer but it would be in bad faith to have naruto kill orochimaru, if it was any of the young guys at all it would have to be sasuke, but i would much prefer the sannins or the akatsuki planning revenge.... though really, to kill orochimar would be a major let down for the entire story, orochimaru is too evil to kill without causing a major stir, u cant kill the main antagonist till the very end, evil must prevail and build up in tandem with good to a climax.

IMHO
the introduction of itachi is enf to eliminate orochimaru sama
no tin a preference kinda way but truth
i think if anyone is the evilest its gonn abe itachi
or the head badguy is gonna be itachi.

why? ....
cus orochimaru srves as a stepping stone for sasuke to his brother
orochimaru since sasukes decision if u think deep is nothing more than a step i must take
plus if orochimaru was as awesome as mallox hopes he is
he wouldnt be running from akatsuki
jiraya isnt

and akatsuki not even 3 interested in orochimaru
cus dem realize greater talent / threat
in the end itachi will be king badguy
unless the sand demon is put in another body

but to the topic i think all persons agree its to know all
but its futile and impossible
he will never know all jutsu
i think his aim should be ot master all jutsu from the scroll
that would be interesting
and naruto aguh do dat

Orochimaru should have died when the Fourth cursed him. I think his death will come swiftly and they will find something else to have the show about. I mean gee- they are having half a year of fillers, they can get another story. Besides, they can show Naruto realize his dream to be a Hokage. Naruto Z sounds like a cool idea.

I understand you situation about being tired of fillers, God knows i'm am. But to say kill orichimaru from that early and leave us without the sanin fights. your crazy.

How will oro learn the contents of the scroll though?? He has no access to it.

kishimoto creative, mek a plot
my thing is ...
if naruto could steal it
then damn it y not orochimaru
man nearly shatter the great leaf

Yeh. Orochi is a pretty amazing guy. I mean really, with about 10 nins orochimaru almost capsized the village. awesome.

It was more than 10 nins. The man ran with an army from the Kazakage's village. And don't double post DK.

The man had a large army, summoned a great beast and had many journins in tow. Remember that he probably had 10 elites but he had a large following.

Yeh. Orochi is a pretty amazing guy. I mean really, with about 10 nins orochimaru almost capsized the village. awesome.

is alot more dan 10 nins still, if u remember correctly, kakashi and gai and di odda dudes did a fight a bag of nins inside di arena, some nins were summoning di snakes, some were fighting neji uncle, some were fighting di ino-shika-cho a nuff people differently, a well planned attack that failed bitterly, i dont even think there was much of a retreat, especially for sound, everybody dead, few sand escape. and still Profound, no killing orochimaru should be a wicked piece of fight not swift, long tiring then the challenger have a flashback (differently still is flashback run anime star, check it, dem remember dem experience or who dem protecting and bam, power) and juss wax off orochimaru, str8

Those were not orochimaru's sound ninja's they were from the sand. Remember. They were the ones who planned for gara to do what. But thinking about it you miht be right unintentionally. because orochimaru was posing as the kazekage so he could have been giving fake orders to the Sand nins.

regardless orochimaru went to konoha outnumbered. if akatsuki could have kill oro they would have already done so instead they said they are goin to wait 3 yrs when they know he is in is weak state then they will attack. plus oro is learnin new stuff and conductin experiments. akatsuki members are too busy with their plans to improve their skill.

i am beginnin to think that akatsuki is not as strong as we thought here is why

1) deidera had to run from kakashi and naruto

2) when akatsuki members were goin to fight gai, itachi stressed that he is very skilled and not to take him lightly. now why would he say this if he didn't
pose a serious threat.

3) sasori who was seen as one of the stronger members were defeated by a
girl and an old lady

4) Itachi strongest attack is his mangekyou which he uses to do genjutsu. this
drains a lot of chakra plus a skilled opponent will brake the genjutsu

you can use these to get a feel of how strong akatsuki is. if oro is left alone he will definately become the strongest.

i dont favor him because of his strength, i favor him because of his way he does evil and the sick and twisted way he thinks. oro will die but it will be jiraiya that kills him. as i said b4 evil plays an important role, it is a loosin role but it is important none the less

I disagree somewhat. Your argument is sound but Akatsuki is going out and getting the skills it needs. Bear in mind that Oro actually fears the Akatsuki- he doesn't take them lightly.

Gai and Kakashi are strong- I don't see the problem in Itachi recognizing that. Gai uses no jutsu (or not much) and can still defeat skills nins. Rating a man doesn't mean he is stronger than you. Akatsuki has Gaara's sand now... what makes you think Oro is a threat to them? The real thing isn't if they could but if they were interested in killing Oro.

Oro is going to so messed up. I hope Frog Hermit does him. I think Jiraya is the strongest person in the series.

oro never said he fears akatsuki, he said he left akatsuki because itachi was stronger than he is. thats what the manga said i dont know what the anime said

I agree with X in post 43. But point #4, itachi's strongest technique would be the god of the sun... we dont know what other technique he has...

Imagine itachi's summoning technique...

Those were not orochimaru's sound ninja's they were from the sand. Remember. They were the ones who planned for gara to do what. But thinking about it you miht be right unintentionally. because orochimaru was posing as the kazekage so he could have been giving fake orders to the Sand nins.

mi nuh know dawg
didnt the anime say it was planned by orochi?
and that he gave fake orders
i thought u loved this stuff?
lol

yes its bcus of fake orders and orochi
hence awesome plan

probablyt he pheonix... There is proof in a theory that the uchiha clan has something to do with a pheonix demon.. um. orochimaru realized that he was inferior in strenth to itachi as molloc said he clearly stated it in the manga thats why he put his tail between his legs and ran. It seems he might be weak to genjutsu's i guess. Which i feel is the real reason he wanted an uchiha so badly. AND DOOD WHO IS THE OTHER UCHIHA/????. there is another itachi said besides you and I "sasuke" there is another uchiha. think its the dad?? think he was in on the murdring of the clan and faked his death??

i dunno if summonign is something that all characters partake in
it seems its a special skill
one used by top nins
like sannins and those cursed with tailed demons
my thing is we dont see the beauty in this show
and we trying to view a demise of everyone and we not seeing that it years away
realise that sand god is 1 tail
there are 8 other tailed yoma if i remember the saying to find
so theres alot to go thru here
we gonna meet some dude name
*plane li* (play on jet li)
who have a 2 tail beast and badder than gaara
and hes prolly gonna be mostly attacking
and so on for all yomas

but to the now
uhm ... akatsuki as u unit would kill orochimaru in my opinion
or else he would ave killed them instead of leaving
i figure he joined to copy moves and advance in techniques
then wen he obtaine sufficient data he fled
prolly realizing the awesomeness of all members and the danger they pose

hmm, the hting is akatsuki reallly doesn't show team like movement to be honest, they plan together but they dont really work together. the only team movement I've seen so far is kisame and itachi. who payed the konoha nins a visit and both had to flee from jiraiya sama. akatsuki probalby wouldn't face orochimaru in a team on one battle, call it pride of a nin I'm not sure, I just believe they woulnd't do it.

where did u see dis ludacris claim of another uchiha
thats gonna really piss me off
dat shakes di dynamic of the story and adds unnecessary story telling
****!!!!!

i dunno if its pride
but i agree that they wouldnt
waste of resources
they dotn see him as a threat even with sasukes body

i just wanna see jiraiya unleash on someone
really badly too
like someone hurt tsunade and him vex and deal wid a case

oro is a uses genjutsu. he used one against sasuke. come to think of it the shadow that we see of akatsuki's leader looks like the 4th but it also looks like orochimaru's new body. oro 's new body has spikey hair. what if oro killed the leader of akatsuki and is pretendin to be him and givin orders. he has done it b4.

lol lol interesting....

malloc taking dis to some theoretical level... is not time travel we discussing, its naruto. no, i doubt its orochimaru who is running akatsuki, him using all his time training sasuke and how does he do it though, i know he doesnt trust saskuke, sasuke doesnt like him, wants till kill him badly, how long will there be peace between them?

sasuke doesn't hate oro he never said that or done anythin to say he hates him. he went to oro to become stronger to kill his brother

Of course he hates him dude open ur eyes. orochimaru cursed him, he almost died cuz of him, was unable to get stronger and naruto surpassed him cuz of the scar, his goal is power thats the only reason hes with Orochimaru, if not he wouldnt be there

Of course he hates him dude open ur eyes. orochimaru cursed him, he almost died cuz of him, was unable to get stronger and naruto surpassed him cuz of the scar, his goal is power thats the only reason hes with Orochimaru, if not he wouldnt be there

when did naruto surpass him? the last time they fought sasuke won. and he likes the curse because it made him stronger thats why he gave in to it and its because of the seal that he was able to beat naruto

dude u must be blind... Blindz stop using malloc username... the man doesnt like the damn curse, in the chuunin trials the guy who sucks chakra with his hands almost wiped out sasuke cuz he couldnt use his powers, the mark burns like hell, he couldnt move when fighting gaara when naruto stepped in.. and naruto surpased him when itachi beat him up and at the fight, he was pissed cuz naruto had grown so much and he hadnt gotten stronger, he didnt think so anyway. u forget when kakashi jumped in and threw them into the water tanks and how his looked compared 2 the rasengad-ed one... come on blindz dont do it, stick 2 ur username man

itachi's effortless defeat of sasuke had nothing to do with the curse seal. Sasuke had too much emotions riding on that fight he rushed in recklessly with a chidori and got his hand broken.

@malloc - I would assume he doesn't like orochimaru. Its actually a temporary allience in the name of becoming stronger, doesn't mean that sasuke doesn't hate his guts.

@lexlimitless again - The curse seal is more of a benefit to sasuke. Take the sound four for example you saw the awesome power they unleashed when they took the curse seal to level 1 then 2. Sasuke also did this when fighting naruto, It was the power of the cursed sealed that enabled him to beat naruto, without it he would have been defeated by the kyuubi's interferance for sure. The curse seal did however have adverse effects. Doesn't it shorten lifespan or something to that effect?? I remember sakon saying something like that 'dude with a twin brother in the same body'. The curse seal also drains chakra quicker than you generally would I think.

I was not talking about sasukes evolved state. i was talking about him in level 1. and no i dont think it was a benefit, because there are adverse effects. i think what it is is if you stay in level 2 for two long you can die, that is why everyone wanted to hurry and defeat their opponents. the one time when level 1 seemed like a benefit was when hit was first unleashed. after that he became paralysed everytime he uses it.

itachi's effortless defeat of sasuke had nothing to do with the curse seal. Sasuke had too much emotions riding on that fight he rushed in recklessly with a chidori and got his hand broken.

i was not referring to the cursed seal when i mentioned the fight between sasuke and itachi. i was talking about naruto surpassing sasuke. remember sasuke was like, why does itachi have interest in naruto, why is it that he is not in the hospital and i am or something like that

I was not talking about sasukes evolved state. i was talking about him in level 1. and no i dont think it was a benefit, because there are adverse effects. i think what it is is if you stay in level 2 for two long you can die, that is why everyone wanted to hurry and defeat their opponents. the one time when level 1 seemed like a benefit was when hit was first unleashed. after that he became paralysed everytime he uses it.



i was not referring to the cursed seal when i mentioned the fight between sasuke and itachi. i was talking about naruto surpassing sasuke. remember sasuke was like, why does itachi have interest in naruto, why is it that he is not in the hospital and i am or something like that
sasuke said that because he didn't know itachi wanted the kyuubi out of naruto. if it wasn't for the cursed seal he would not have beat naruto. u seem to forgot who won that fight. the curse is more a benefit to him than a harm. when sasuke was at level 2 he surpassed the 4 sound nins. read the manga the anime may word things differently.

sasuke is foolish to think he can just take oro's power and kill him after words. how foolish do u think oro is? then again however the outcome it will be fun to watch. no matter who wins or lose it will be to my entertainment.

right now i am on a bleach high

heh.. Seems like me and malloc-x agrees for one. I told you the exact same thing @lexlimitless
It was the power of the cursed sealed that enabled him to beat naruto, without it he would have been defeated by the kyuubi's interferance for sure. The curse seal did however have adverse effects the cursed seal saved sasuke. however you wanna take it, he benefitted from having the seal.

well as a response to every1 in my opinion.... sasuke doesn't hate orochimaru, my opinion, he has no emotions towards him, he just wants strength and sees orochimaru as a way to gain it. and malco-X, it would make an interesting story if oro had taken the body of one of the akimatsu's leaders, but he didn't, he had all the prisoners in his prison fight for freedom, the last one standing, he took the body of... it showed in one of the episodes a little before kimimaro went out to fight. I agree with dark night, he benifited from the curse seal, in the fight against the ninja that drains chakara, he stopped the curse because he didnt' want the others to worry about it, kakashi who did worry decided to try and seal it. True without the seal he mostlikely would hav lost to naruto, but in that last fight, it wasn't so much sasuke vs naruto, it was sasuke with the curse vs kyuubi. without kyuubi naruto wouldn't hav stood a chance against sasuke with merly the sharingan, let alone the curse seal. and i'm not sure if this was resolved but i think orochimaru chose imortality in other's bodies over time slowing, was because if he slowed time, he wouldnt' be able to git every technique. understand that the sharingan is available only for the uchiha, obviously he's not getting itachi, and kakashi's too old, sasuke's young, has the sharingan and plenty of potential.

To put my two cents in...
When did Sasuke truly beat Naruto? The dumbass just decided to scratch the man forehead instead of handing sasuke's ass to him.
About Orochi... twisted, twisted man
But so very cool
Evil is the shit in anime.

Anybody kinda think the boss of Akatsuki look like him have a pair of Sharingan or some doujustu type eyes?

To put my two cents in...
When did Sasuke truly beat Naruto? The dumbass just decided to scratch the man forehead instead of handing sasuke's ass to him.
About Orochi... twisted, twisted man
But so very cool
Evil is the shit in anime.

Anybody kinda think the boss of Akatsuki look like him have a pair of Sharingan or some doujustu type eyes?

dood i been saying that shit for ages.. YOU SAW IN THE CAVE MEETING DIDN'T YOU. i was like is ther 2 itachi's.. no thats not it but there's another cool looking eye there it looks ver sharingan like. I saw it too man i saw it.

heh.. Seems like me and malloc-x agrees for one. I told you the exact same thing @lexlimitless
the cursed seal saved sasuke. however you wanna take it, he benefitted from having the seal.

Well it helped him to "win" sure but u gotta think about the cost man!!! He gotta be really desperate for power if he'd trade his soul for it.
But i dont believe Orochi will get him at all, after Sasuke is a genius and his story is the most important storyline in naruto xcept naruto of course. It would suck if he became just another body for Orochimaru. I believe he's gonna suck up all the strength from Orochi then pull an Itachi (i.e. he's too strong for me now - Orochimaru)

Anybody really have any estimation how strong Kabuto actually is? There are times when he says stuff about 'old blood' boiling. What is this old blood?
Tailed beast maybe???

so you think kabuto is a possible jinchyuriki. i highly doubt that if that was the case orochimaru would probably use him as a host body.. another thing that i find odd is kabuto' srelation ship with orochimaru. is he only a subordinate why wasn't he of the sound 5 [ kimimaru and the others ]. kabuto was defeated by naruto at a young stage in the sanin fight.. kabuto cant' be that strong if he was caught of guard by a youngin like that.

what u talkin bout kabuto is as srong as kakashi. all this time oro steal and creatin jutsus u think kabuto dont pick up some of these moves.and u forgot the move naruto used was created by the 4th. its like givin jamaica a bomb that can destroy the US even though the US army is much stronger

Kabuto is supposedly as strong as kakashi but even orochimaru is aware of his extreme cruelty and bloodlust. i think there is something more to him. If orochimaru was after jinchuuriki for bodies, DK, why target Sasuke and not Naruto or even Gaara for that matter?
The snake wants a strong body as in indestructible like Kimimaro or one of a genius clan like Uchiha.

There is something to Kabuto --- watch it!!!

now heres a dude whos thinking! kabuto places a high loyalty in orochimaru and we dont see his story yet we see everyone elses. he was caught off guard many times before... or was he just faking when he took the hit from one of the sound members in the earlier stages of the chuunin exams?

now heres a dude whos thinking! kabuto places a high loyalty in orochimaru and we dont see his story yet we see everyone elses. he was caught off guard many times before... or was he just faking when he took the hit from one of the sound members in the earlier stages of the chuunin exams?

yeh his whole act during the chuuning exams was a front. he was just trying to put on a show under orochimaru's orders to gain the trust of team kakashi.. and do some information mining.

what gets me is as you've stated. why is he so loyal to orochimaru ?? for what reason? and i dont think he was always a sound nin either/

kabuto is only actin he is not genuinely loyal to oro. and oro knows this. remember when oro told kabuto if u want to stop me then go kill sasuke. the looks that they gave each other, u could tell they dont trust each other

ummm dats wrong. oro told kabuto he trusted him with something that sounded close 2 his life... and when tsunade tried 2 kill oro wid di medical jutsu, kabuto saved him, he could have let him die in peace

maybe he needs him alive.. for some other reason that we have yet to learn.. you know how it is with the nins. temporary allainces and so on.

ummm dats wrong. oro told kabuto he trusted him with something that sounded close 2 his life... and when tsunade tried 2 kill oro wid di medical jutsu, kabuto saved him, he could have let him die in peace

oro is evil. evil people lie all the time to get what they want. kabuto saved his life to try to get oro to trust him completely. they are both playin each other. and what do u know of deception? its an art i ahve been practicin for years thats how i know these things

sounds like a logical answer to me...

Kabuto is hiding some special detail yo, mark my words.

yeh it would be smart to assume that kishimoto has some thing real slick to pull with the characther kabuto. his real intentions still remain.. hidden.

well kabuto did say something about not playing with team kakashi any more cause old blood might start to boil, and in the forest when he was cut on the nose it appeared as if he had a demon or so in him...more than likely he is like the guy from the konoha root

nah, i doubt that...i think that was more him just getting upset and wanting to start fighting rather than hold back...btw orochimarus goal was made clear several times...proper immortality...or sumn like that so he can learn all the jutsus in the world

nah, i doubt that...i think that was more him just getting upset and wanting to start fighting rather than hold back...btw orochimarus goal was made clear several times...proper immortality...or sumn like that so he can learn all the jutsus in the world
pretty sure there was a glow in his eyes though...orochi does want to learn all the jutsus in the world by living on forever, nothing wrong with that. it just that he sacrifices lives and he is disgusting

Orochimaru's Goal is to have the but seks with sasuke. Full stop. Cho.... feel like lock this thread now :D j/k

pretty sure there was a glow in his eyes though...orochi does want to learn all the jutsus in the world by living on forever, nothing wrong with that. it just that he sacrifices lives and he is disgusting

Yes im glad someone realise, the man is disgusting. a stick out him tounge after man, a bite man, him head can extend like girraffe, him can come outta him own mout, wtf? di man sick mi stomach

Orochimaru's Goal is to have the but seks with sasuke. Full stop. Cho.... feel like lock this thread now :D j/k
maybe its to have it wid itachi which is why he needs sasuke

Yes im glad someone realise, the man is disgusting. a stick out him tounge after man, a bite man, him head can extend like girraffe, him can come outta him own mout, wtf? di man sick mi stomach

lol lol lol without him u wouldn't be watchin naruto.

lol lol lol without him u wouldn't be watchin naruto.
well actually he's not the only reason...he's just a filler to the real thing to come

@ hendy when since u start promote hatred, i am talkin about ur sig. u know thats my job

@ hendy when since u start promote hatred, i am talkin about ur sig. u know thats my job
in time u'll know the true meaning of what itachi was saying

itachi is a badass with a penchant for acting violent...anbu captain at 13...cot f**king damn...but i don't see why orochimaru wants to learn all the jutsus...all he does is various versions of his snake shit...the battle between him and the hokage wasn't even all that, i'd say we need to see more jutsus being used...sakura has her strength and thats it...sasuke is the only person i see doing more than just regular stuff...naruto just pushes forward with kage bunshin...and gaara has his kick ass sand control...neji is a badass...no one can even question him for using byakugen...cuz he also does the whirl and the 64 hit thing....i'd say kakashi and sasuke are the only ppl who use diff diff jutsus

yeah after that fight wid the hokage and orochi i never saw nething special about him either. the only thing that caught me was the first fighting sequence when the 3rd combined the earth element with the fire element...can u imagine he and kabuto saying that they came to kill sasori and he used the snake hands thing, did he really think that that could work on a high level nin?? so far the only interesting fights are the ones with neji,sasuke and kakashi.
i hear ppl talking about orochi taking on 2 sanins with no arms but dont look at the fact that jiraya couldn't do jutsus either and tsunade was just behaving like a little girl...but once tsunade started to fight he was out matched...him lucky him did have genma

itachi is a badass with a penchant for acting violent...anbu captain at 13...cot f**king damn...but i don't see why orochimaru wants to learn all the jutsus...all he does is various versions of his snake shit...the battle between him and the hokage wasn't even all that, i'd say we need to see more jutsus being used...sakura has her strength and thats it...sasuke is the only person i see doing more than just regular stuff...naruto just pushes forward with kage bunshin...and gaara has his kick ass sand control...neji is a badass...no one can even question him for using byakugen...cuz he also does the whirl and the 64 hit thing....i'd say kakashi and sasuke are the only ppl who use diff diff jutsus

Yay somebody agree's with me... except, i dont really mind orochi using different versions of the snake stuff. At least he has some variety to it, he doesnt seem to use the same snake stuff twice.
Naruto on the other hand....:eusa_snoo :baka

kage bunshin no jutsu!
kage bunshin no jutsu!
kage bunshin no jutsu!
kage bunshin no jutsu!
kage bunshin no jutsu!
kage bunshin no jutsu!

:blowup

I do agree with everything else u say though

Oh and i forgot

Rasengan!
Rasengan!
Rasengan!
:loser

yeah after that fight wid the hokage and orochi i never saw nething special about him either. the only thing that caught me was the first fighting sequence when the 3rd combined the earth element with the fire element...can u imagine he and kabuto saying that they came to kill sasori and he used the snake hands thing, did he really think that that could work on a high level nin?? so far the only interesting fights are the ones with neji,sasuke and kakashi.
i hear ppl talking about orochi taking on 2 sanins with no arms but dont look at the fact that jiraya couldn't do jutsus either and tsunade was just behaving like a little girl...but once tsunade started to fight he was out matched...him lucky him did have genma

yeh but lets think about this a lil more. your basically saying that all 3 of them faced a handicap and honestly orochimaru faced one of the biggest the man had no hands. tsunade had a emotional handicap and jiraiya was jutsu-less for lack of a better word. and orochimaru held his own for quite some time... he da man. no seroiusly can you imagine fighting 2 people with handicaps lesser than yours and coming close to defeating then.

eeehh..a man fi thank god say manda neva eat him food same place...him good enuh but just like with sasuke, naruto and sakura..maybe the rest just nah reach up to the mark fi compete wid him

oro had no hands, so he could not do taijutsu, ninjutsu or genjutsu. jiraiya could do taijutsu so thats an advantage. jiraiya could also mold chakra if he concentrated hard enuff, thats so he summoned frog boss. if he really wanted to use ninjutsu he could have concentrated hard enuff and used it. tsunade had the least disadvantage in the fight and she still couldn't kill oro.

manda could have defeated both frog boss and the slug if tsunade didn't interfere

true but how did manda reach to the battle along with the other snakes...orochi could still do his tongue thing and he could still cough up the sword. jiraya could hardly move when he came to the battle field anyways so that would hinder his taijutsu..tsunade wasted all her chakra healing after playing around with kabuto, that wasn't a fair battle to mark the talent of the 3...i say rematch
manda couldn't beat the slug just frog boss

Manda is a bad ass summon, i mean Oro was afraid to use him. But dont uderestimate the other two summons plus teamwork is what summoning is about, so in essence Tsunade wasn't interfering but was just participating in the battle. And when did Oro, almost beat the 2 good Sannins? Clearly u missed the assing Tsunade handed him ruff neck style. ( I'm Tsunade's fanboy. I'm in love.)

look here...the man (jiraya) was POISONED!!! bumbo striker...the man could barely summon up any chakra, tsunade expert medical ninja poisoned the man...what the hell you expect? and oro never had no hands but he still had full control of his body otherwise, plus the tongue is the strongest muscle in the body and that dudes tongue is way wack...tsunade handed oro's ass to him on a silver platter, and manda could not defeat frog boss one on one...that would have to be a draw, if anything jiraya could summon that mountain frog and done everybody food, but

I still say it was an unfair battle. 2 against 1 guy. with no hands.. how much more unfair can something get.

well it wasn't 2 against 1 until the summons were there...then it was a giant snake vs. a slug and a frog. orochi never did ne fighting at the time just his little round with tsunade. manda could've easily disposed of frog boss and jiraya, orochi had nothing to do with that, once the summons were there it was jiraya and tsunade against orochi...it was a battle of the summons

we could say it was 2 against 1 if when manda was indisposed jiraya and tsunade both rushed orochi, that didn't happen so what it turned out to be was just a real shitty battle

Warchief go ez on malloc

ur missing the point its still 2 against 1. think about it. oro was fightin jiraiya while he was fightin him he had to be thinkin i neeed to conserve energy because in the event that i beat jiraiya i will still have to fight tsunade. so he could not have gone all out and jiraiya because he had to save strength to fight tsunade and that in itself is also a handicap.

naruto is an ass he keeps dependin on a power he cant control, not only will he defeat his enemies but he will harm/kill his frenz

nope its not 2 against 1...who wants to go back and count all who were apart of that battle???
orochimaru couldn't have summoned manda by himself....DEFINATELY NOT 2 AGAINST 1