Aight a big discussion did happen at a lil link up this weekend. Time Travel, the concept the ins and outs. We thought about doing time travel to go get the path of neo and bring it back to current time now.. but after thinking about it some more we realized if you should travel to the future and bring something back. 1 would it be a situation where on arival back to the normal time the medium "cd" would contain no data as it hasn't been created as yet. ??? next thing was would there be a loop like the harry potter effect where on the day that you went to the future to take the cd say from your self. would that happened again after you've acquired it "you see your self come and take the one copy that you have"??? What do you guys thinkg :dunno

Time travel is problematic because precision is necessary. To aviod the loop you have to come back at the precise moment you left. Therefore if I went to the future for the Path of Neo and told you to wait for me, then go into the portal- you must see me come back out the moment I go in.
If that happens then it will be a loop in the past and not in a present. Therefore if you get caught by the FBI or CIA or worse, the one world order- and want to go back in time when you didn't get the game then you would have a small problem. You would have to go back and stop yourself from leaving at that precise moment or else you will have a nasty loop.

time travel could be fun. i would go to the past do angelina jolie a ting then go back and stop myself from doin it then go back to the present

@ dk - I think you need to get a job b4 ur brain get totally warped.

But, on ur first point of bringing a cd back from the future, not only would it be blank but it wouldn't exist, seeing it hasn't been created as yet.

So if your travelling 100 years into the future you'ld be dead b4 exiting the time machine. I guess if you travelling 3 days into the future it might work, cuz you would be 3 days older.

On the harry potter thing... thats ridiculous. Because if harry hadn't fainted he would have seen himself, and who knows what would have happened. defeating the purpose of going back.

@ Profound, that seems about right...

But time travel to the future seems impossible. Time travel to the past might be possible. But it would have to be couple days back, going back 10 years nuh mek sense. Cuz the machine wouldn't have been created yet. But lets say you and the machine make it 10 years back, you wouldn't know what the machine is, why you went back to that day, how to operate it, etc.... Writing notes in the time machine would be pointless since the paper or the pen didn't exist.

NB. If the cd you brought back from the future is blank, then you should lose ur memory as well..????

The CD wouldn't be blank, you wouldn't be dead. The machine would have to built in a way that insulates the machine parts and the user from the wear of the passage of time. It is not a time accelerator- because then you wouldn't be able to go back in time, just make it shorter or decelerate. We are talking time machine- choose a date and go there, whholly unaffected by the travel because of your insulation.

The cd would be intact and your memory would be intact. You as a travelling element would be fine. Your surroundings though would be affected. Therefore the cd wouldn't be blank but wouldn't be guaranteed to work on the machines in the past.

The loop would be like this: You Alpha goes into machine at 12:00 sharp. You Beta comes back at 12:00:03 sharp. No loop problems. When you want to go back and stop yourself from going you would have to come back at 11:59 and tell yourself to stop then you Beta would cease to exist and the cd would disappear from memory.

If you don't go the third step to stop yourself you would have made a gap in time to the future and brought new tech to the past change the future significantly. In the future you would probably have an issue if you went within your lifetime. If you went when you were dead then you wouldn't feel that badly... you would just create a gap.

now if u stopped yourself from going to the future wouldn't there then exist 2 of you, is that really possible. And re the whole cd thing, hmmm, just like your memory I think the cd would be intact.

@ Virus, now y would u think that if u travelled x years into the future then you'll age by x years, no proof to back it yute, what ever method you would use to travel to the future may keep you in a awaken state of chronogenesis, nething is possible

@ Profound -Wrong. You assume the cd, the machine, and the person travelling would be fine.

About the loop, if i go to the past and say to myself, dont go to work 8:00 tomorrow bcuz a plane will crash into the building.

I decide i going go work 7:50 (now inside the building), how would i get the message not to go work, the future me would be dead...

Furthermore, you can't greet urself in the past, you would only frig up ur future self. Causing the imbalance...

If you greet yourself in the past and change something then that greeting would probably never have happened. Example, you go back to tell yourself the answers to the exam you failed. You would get the knowledge and pass the exam and then the loop would occur in the past but your future would be entirely different. Either you would create a gap in time (and knowledge) or you would mess up yourself by causing that moment recur in the past- endless time loop.

And again- time travel, not time acceleration.

@ Blindz. If you stop yourself from going to the future then you never went to come back to go to come back to stop yourself. You created an impossible gap that somehow screws you over. You either have two of you or you create a gap in knowledge- something didn't happen and you can't figure why. Time is a tricky thing you know. Hence, If I go to the future and return then I have to be precise. I don't want to create a gap. I would rather a past endless loop than a gap. With a gap you would be just there thinking- what the frig is going on. With the loop you only see it once.

DK please post the name of that time travel movie with Ben Aflec, it sounds really interesting, i suggest you all watch it. i waiting till u all reach where we had reached in our discussing, lol, keep talking

@ Blindz - Everyday that passes i am 1 day older. Why if i go 10 years into the future the rules shouldn't apply? What kind of magical powers could the inside of the time machine have, that would bend the rules of time.

E.g. If i go into the past and my apple tree jus start push out leaves, but 10 years time it dead, when i go 10 years into the future i should also age and my appearance should change as well.

What if 5 years in between i starve myself skinny... you saying that the time machine would keep me looking healthy as ever??? Nothing about me would change??


Time trave is impossible. How can i stop myself from writing this mesage....??? Without stealing the modem etc...

Meeting myself @ 11:44 and saying "you gonna write a message bout "time travel", Dont do it!!!"

If i listen to future me, then he wouldn't remember a thing about the message since it never happened. Then future me would be freaked out seh i see him (THERE'S THE IMBALANCE!!!)

K first @ virus. Think of time as a meduim you travel through and that alone, in regards to what i"M asking thats how time would be treated, its the road the machine is the car. You move through 10 years in a matter of second not by time acceleration but through actual movement through the fabric of time it self, I hope that explains it to you.

@Blindz, I'm not even to sure about the 2 of you existing at one time. Its really not even possible is it? there is only 1 you so at no point in the space and time continuum can there be two. ever.

@lex, the movie is paycheck with benaffleck and uma thurman
from the film asylum

The story follows Michael Jennings (Affleck), a top technician who specialises in the process of reverse-engineering and, after completing sensitive contracts, agrees to have his memory erased to protect the corporations who pay him for his skills. But after his biggest job to date, he discovers that not only has he refused the agreed $92 million paycheck, but he's also sent himself an envelope full of seemingly random items that he doesn't recognise. As he slowly tries to unpick his memory in search of answers, he begins to realise that his last project was something far more sinister as shadowy figures threaten his existence.

@everbody. The cd would exist as i had the spindle from a weeka ago but i just honestly feel the data would be missing. MY memory would be intact I belive, because i'm concious/cognisant of the fact that it happend, I traveld time [ the fabric ] not move backwards and forward with time. but through it.. I sorta belive its only possible to bring things to the future and not back..

Road... car... fabric of time, your the craziest one so far...

OK, if you bring a cd back from the future b4 data was burned on it, then burn something in the past and carried it back to the future, what data would exist on the cd - the past or the future?

The answer would be neither past or present.
Reason: the future stopped you from burning the cd, and then burned the cd in the past to carry back, but the future you would now become ur past..... creating the endless loop.

Time cannot be skipped, this isn't a cd.

I understand your logic about not having two you's ever. However what about my theory or either the gap or the endless loop when you return a minute or some time before you actually left? You would in fact have to contend with an imbalance DK. You would have a serious problem.

I don't see why your memory would be in tact and the cd would be blank. The cd was protected from the effects of the journey just like you. Your clothes wouldn't be affected, your shoes wouldn't suddenly become worn- why the cd?

If you can do forward movement you should be able to backwards. If not, then that would mean time travel is a one way street. Believing in forward only eliminates loops but creates some gaps because ppl in the preset will think you disappeared or vanished.
I think backtracking should be possible. There should be rules on it though, to avoid backtracking and overlapping- creating a worm hole or a time warp or loop... or worse, the gap that i've been hinting at but a gap with your past self.

If you loop or overlap yourself, your knowledge of the overlap will affect your future existence, which will see time trying to correct itself and balance out to compensate. Seemingly you may forget everything to correct the shift you cause by changing the past.

The data on the cd wouldn't exist @ profound my reason for this is. The data doesn't exist in that time period. everyting else did your clothes, you your mind. But the data it self, Doesn't exist. at all does it..

i get what your saying, but lets say the data did exist in the past & future. If you burned it in the future and came back to the past with it, it would be blank same way because........................................... ........... you didn't burn it yet.'


And based on what was said earlier, i think i've conquered this thread. Because what ya'll are sayint is that its not time acceleration, its jumping time. Therefore if im in the past and jump 30years forward, i should look the same. Right???

But if 15 years in between i cut off my leg, i would be protected by the time machine and have both legs when the time jump is complete. Bcuz improtected by the time capsule + im moving thru time....jus like how you move thru water.... @ dk - lol lol :lmao

Now lets apply that to your memory, if i "jump" 30 years forward only to find out that lesbians rule the world. and i jump 30 years back, 2 seconds after i intially left then based on what you said i shouldnt remember a thing because
The data doesn't exist in that time period

So its safe to say:
"Time travel is impossible"

Posting from my hiptop2.

DK bear in mind that the device you are in insulates you from harm of the travel. If you take something and place it in your care- an HDDVD for example that has halo for xbox 360 why would it be affected? Being that the hddvd exists in concept only in our time bringing it back shouldn't make it a blank disc. Bringing it back means that it was unaffected by the passage as were you. That is how backward and forward motion is possible.
It isn't abt the clothes or what you started with when you first travelled. It is more about the machine that places you and other objects in a vaccuum. You are them are insulated by the device and therefore unaffected.

So, the dvd would be in tact.

And virus, if you come back two seconds before you leave I think you will see yourself abt to answer. If you stop yourself there then you would create a time shift problem

I get it @profound.. Now to build the machine :D.. path of neo came out aleady so thats off the list but there are other games i need to go get :rofl.