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Profound 11-06-2005, 07:27 PM I think many people who like anime here like to call themselves techies. Well, my skill is in Networking. I therefore encourage people to (on a regular basis) post questions about networking related issues and we will work to providing the best alternative.
Want to know how to remote access, open ports, best ADSL modem or router- anything networking tech.
And if you don't ask, I will just double post interesting stuff until you do:D
Malloc-X 11-06-2005, 07:59 PM i have 512/128 from cand w and i am gettin a high ping while plyin CS. how can i fix this? or maybe 128 up is too low
Profound 11-06-2005, 08:32 PM 128up is slow... but I am guessing you are doing something else online. What programmes are running while you are doing cs, and what time do you test it. Do you get varied pings? Are your ports open on your modem to allow gaming? Is UPnP enabled?
Malloc-X 11-06-2005, 08:49 PM what is Upnp? the only program i am runin that uses net is trillian an IM client.
in Cs my latency is like 1000. i did a ping test at pc pit stop and the ping results were between 100 to 200. i also did a banndwidth test and that came outr correct
Profound 11-06-2005, 09:01 PM I am thinking you want to open ports. I would test it with my connection but then it wouldn't be fair. I am running 1024/256 so I am able to deal better with outgoing connections.
Try figuring out what port CS uses and open it on your adsl modem.
Universal Plun n Play (UPnP). This is the case where the programme opens the port for itself.
Malloc-X 11-06-2005, 09:03 PM my adsl modem is just a basic modem it doesn't block ports, i have zone alarm runnin but why would that cause lag
Profound 11-06-2005, 09:09 PM Er... because it is a firewall. Have you tried the latency tests with the firewall down.
Virus 11-06-2005, 09:40 PM lol, zonealarm is a terrible software... uninstall it if you can. ADSL is supposedly to keep ur upload traffic seperate from ur download traffic but my tests have proved otherwise.
Heres a question, my dad can't surf the net unless i create a network bridge. Why? Whats the bridge do?
What does destination host unreachable mean and how do i find the source of the problem? A problem with the dns settings???
Virus 11-06-2005, 09:43 PM One thing that has always got me,
Start --> Run --> \\dell
Error:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/courage/error.gif
This started to happen after installing zonealarm. BTW, uninstalling zonealarm is a bitch... i had to
format cuz it wouldn't even let me configure my modem. It completely killed network connectivity
Profound 11-06-2005, 10:12 PM lol, zonealarm is a terrible software... uninstall it if you can. ADSL is supposedly to keep ur upload traffic seperate from ur download traffic but my tests have proved otherwise.
Heres a question, my dad can't surf the net unless i create a network bridge. Why? Whats the bridge do?
What does destination host unreachable mean and how do i find the source of the problem? A problem with the dns settings???
Firstly I don't use Zonealarm. I think it is a terribly good firewall that effectively shuts down everything. Therefore it has the essential flaw of blocking all ports. I always say uninstall it. I don't use norton either. As a matter of fact, I have a hardware firewall on my Netgear ADSL modem.
Is your dad logged into thes same profile as you or a different one? You need to provide more information and I will provide clearer answers.
I double-post, you don't. Also, \\dell goes to a network folder because you used the "\\" so I forsee an error... What are you trying to achieve with that command exactly? Give more info.
Virus 11-06-2005, 10:50 PM Is your dad logged into thes same profile as you or a different one???? He has the dad profile (Admin) on the desktop.... i have my profile (Admin) on my laptop.
From the desktop (dell) --> laptop (virus) i can see my shared folder. But vice versa doesn't work.
"\\dell" is suppose to show me the shared folders on that pc
death_knight 11-06-2005, 11:55 PM you know whats pretty odd as well, when there is no password set on a pc and when you access it it keeps asking you for the guest password, Even though you turned the feature off. And even when you set the guest password it still bitches when you submit the right data. So annoying.esp when you ftp to yoru xbox and stream vids from your computer with your xbox.
Profound 11-07-2005, 10:05 PM Posted from the hiptop2.
Virus, thanks for all the info. If both machines use xp you probably check the effective permissions of the folder you are sharing. The firewall may have shut down file sharing but I think the real issue is os based.
Ensure that the group "everyoneL is owner of the folder and has full effective control. Let me know how it goes.
Malloc... Did turning off the firewall and retesting yield any results?
Malloc-X 11-08-2005, 11:00 AM my problem is fixed it seems it was c and w fault. whenever somethin goes wrong they give more net to people in kingston because thats where most business are and leave me in spanish town to suffer
Profound 11-09-2005, 12:29 AM my problem is fixed it seems it was c and w fault. whenever somethin goes wrong they give more net to people in kingston because thats where most business are and leave me in spanish town to suffer
And where did you hear a story like that...
Oh, virus the group is "everyone".
Malloc-X 11-09-2005, 06:51 AM its a theory of mine, they when stuff goes bad and they cant handle all the load they think of their business customers first, then the kingston customers then the rest after that.
Profound 11-09-2005, 08:56 AM Whenever there is slow browsing it affects everyone. There is no rationing of the speed. To do that your ISP would have to put labels on each customer's accounts in the Shasta... and we don't do that. Therefore, don't spread faulty propaganda. Admittedly there were some slow browsing issues for the past few weeks. I thought your ping situation was a general fault with CS over a longer period... but I guess not.
Virus 11-09-2005, 10:12 AM Its a firewall problem, cuz i formatted the laptop, removing zonealarm.. now the dell can access the laptop but i cant access it.
Im thinking i might format the dell...........or i could buy an external hdd.
OK next question, SAN's.... what is it and how can i get one?
Malloc-X 11-09-2005, 10:51 AM so profound do u work for c and w?
Profound 11-09-2005, 01:52 PM OK next question, SAN's.... what is it and how can i get one?
If you are the only person willing to shell out the cash just for network storage... then no.http://storage.ittoolbox.com/groups/vendor-selection/storage-select/297753
cheeseman1 11-09-2005, 05:02 PM Profound can you tel me how to network my adsl conection between my house and my girl's house down the road
Enigma 11-09-2005, 05:18 PM It would be cheaper to just get ADSL on her line......
death_knight 11-09-2005, 08:52 PM Yep that sounds like some real serious wifi equipment d00d. I"m not talking just a normal b/g router, i'm talking them big antenna's like what j2 uses, is there any way to boost the signal of a g router? whats the range between your house and your girlfriends house?
Profound 11-10-2005, 12:14 AM Profound can you tel me how to network my adsl conection between my house and my girl's house down the road
It is possible, depending on how far 'down the road' is. However, seeing that I know who you are and where you live... that is quite far.
You have options but they are all quite expensive.
Opt1) Third Party ADSL Router with external Wireless antenna support, External Antenna (directional), Wifi Amplifier and Accesspoint in your house.
Cost: Preliminary searches reveal that it is already over 10,000 for a quality router. If you have CandW adsl for a year you spend a minimum $26562 for a 12 month period. Believe me- you will spend a lot more with the wifi option.
Cable is not an option.
Opt2) Get your own service.
Take it from someone who has done this before. I shelled out a lot of money for my wireless network. If I intended to use it to give people free access then I would be most unhappy.
Keep the relevant questions coming.
cheeseman1 11-10-2005, 09:11 AM I doe believe that I would be best If I buy Her a C&W phone and just get her unlimited GPRS all her ass really needs to do is check her mail dude
Profound 11-10-2005, 03:08 PM I doe believe that I would be best If I buy Her a C&W phone and just get her unlimited GPRS all her ass really needs to do is check her mail dude
If what you wanted was a cheap solution then fine. Network Solutions thread is about networking issues. GPRS isn't really a part of the scope. Thanks for the input though.
cheeseman1 11-10-2005, 04:11 PM Are you mocking me? Because If you are Ill kick your Ass
Virus 11-10-2005, 05:13 PM Is there a way to get around a proxy server....
Im behind a proxy, i think its sorta creepy that someone knows that im writing this mesage. Keyloggers probably in the mix as well, the question is:
If im behind a proxy at work, and i can only go to "certain" sites can i build my own proxy server at home and point the machine to it...??
Profound 11-10-2005, 09:49 PM There are ways to get around the proxy server. A proxy server is intranet based though so don't think pointing to your home will work. To get around it you need to have some knowledge of how the policies at your work place are set up. Knowledge is everything.
A simple limited profile won't be enough and burrowing through
your proxy will cost you your job. You will probably want to have an admin profile. If your company uses Active Directory and RADIUS to determine privileges... then you have a problem. If they use mac filtering to determine what machine goes where then again... you may have a problem.
A proxy is your only gateway to the internet. Again, you need to give more info on the corporate networking structure to be able to burrow through ur proxy. The easiest thing you can do is get a programme that encrypts your packets. The server admin won't be able to decipher what you are really doing on the net.
cheeseman1 11-11-2005, 09:36 AM What Program Could Do This Dude ?
Profound 11-11-2005, 07:04 PM WWW.GOOGLE.COM
Can we move on to more interesting networking issues? How come nobody wants to talk about remote access and vpn and port allocation and denial of service and all those interesting topics.
I mean really... go around a proxy? A proxy is the gateway to the internet on your network and you want to hack it and go around the gate. Imagine the proxy is a small hole in a thick cement round cell. Go around what? You would have to hack your way through, literally.
death_knight 11-11-2005, 07:10 PM yer that last one just cleared up all the weird questions virus was gonna ask you. i know tht guy.. trust me they were coming. on the topic of remote access, I've tried tight vnc over lan and it work fine but whenver i try it over wan it fails always fails, I figured its because of the fact that we all run dynamic ips it would be difficult for the vnc users. Also if you provider uses a nat are you screwed from the ability of using any vnc or remote access application. I remember I ran into trouble trying to create a dyndns account from home becuase of my isp's configurations.
Profound 11-11-2005, 10:49 PM Thanks for asking about one of my favourite topics.
Remote access is always easy over lan so need to discuss it. WAN however is much more interesting. If your isp is like J2 and uses a big fat external IP and then uses an internal NAT for its users- and then you use your own nat then let me say now- you are screwed. The only way to get something from that would be:
a) Beg them to kindly give you an external ip address (they are reluctant)
b) Beg them (on your knees) to openn a few ports that point to your connection. Then you would open ports that continue to point to your machine. Too darn complicated for just remote access.
c) Change ISP. This option is only applicable if you are in desperate need of remote access technology.
Now, if you are on an Internet Service Provider like CandW then I have some tips because you get your own external ip to play with.
death_knight 11-11-2005, 11:06 PM just like i thought with the nat and j2. I hate those guys I really do.
Enigma 11-12-2005, 03:04 AM Ahhh... no matter what ppl say about C&W they are not THAT bad. If u wanted u can set up dyndns (http://www.dyndns.org)and run ur own little server from home. Of course make sure u have some battery back up ready just in case JOS decide to act up. :D
death_knight 11-12-2005, 11:26 AM K its a little idea i've head. for bluetooth phone users and hispeed users. Say we make a project called bluetooth jamaica. Were if you have highspeed and you wish toparticipate you get a usb 2.0 bluetooth dongle keep it in all times and share the internet. for bluetooth smartphone users right. they would't have to be a prick about it either as they would be able to do the same what i'ldlike to know is. Is bluetooth only able to connect to one device at a time. my initial thoughts on that is no becuase with the ngage i was able to multiplayer with up to 8 ngage users. so is my idea impossible or probable
Profound 11-12-2005, 03:34 PM Your bluetooth idea is possible. You can create a bluetooth network and share the internet. I think though that is it improbably that you would get enough bluetooth devices connected to enoug highspeed networks to make a significant impact. It is a lot easier to provide WiMax.
With reference to the remote desktop I use a nifty interface called Remotely Anywhere. First step is to have a domain name. My routerr syncs with dyndns whenever the ip changes. After getting the domain name you need to configure the ports for the programme that you intend to use.
After that it is really quite easy. I am going to give details and screens of the process on my blog soon. To bookmark my blog from now click on the Profound in my sig. When you get to my blog click on the advertisements.
Enigma 11-13-2005, 01:05 AM Remotely Anywhere can be a life saver.... especially if you have ur system on a UPS. Ever wanted to check the progress or what not of somethign u were doing on ur system but had to leave the house??
Open a web browser point it to your domain BAM!!!! ur basically on ur machine like u were right in front of it.
Profound 11-15-2005, 07:53 AM I still haven't posted the remote access to my blog because I have been so preoccupied. I know, wasteman.
Until I post that I want to talk about wifi. Do you wifi? I use WPA-PSK as well as MAC filtering and SSID hiding.
The real question though is whether or not WiFi is worth the investment. Why not just neatly wire your house? Why would you want to be unwired?
death_knight 11-16-2005, 08:31 PM mac filter is what my isp people employ as well, it sorta annoys me i gotta call in and let em register every mac address that i wanna use on my homenetwork so like i got a new xbox i gotta call and let em remove the old one and add the new one. this sucks. believe me.
Profound 11-17-2005, 09:47 AM Hmmm. Mac filtering doesn't suck. It is good for security and helps you regulate your devices and control them.
Your ISP kinda sucks though. How is it their business what you put on your homenet? Explain that one to me.
Virus 11-17-2005, 12:17 PM lol. I really cant see the point of that still. Thats way pass invasion of privacy...
Profound 11-17-2005, 08:45 PM It isn't invasion of privacy. By signing up with them you agree that you have X and Y rights. In some cases you agree that you have none.
I think mac filtering is a grand idea. Mac filtering combined with RADIUS authentication makes for a supersecure network. 802.11x.
Is that what J2 uses?
death_knight 11-17-2005, 09:25 PM I believe So it sucks though, J2's setup is tighter than a..... vice grip's pinch. you cant do much with that isp.
Virus 11-17-2005, 11:30 PM Supersecure, damm right.
I wonder if merit will be this tight....
"plz open port 80 for me nuh... 8mb and cant do nothing with it"
Radius + 802.11x + Mac Filtering... is that the best way, couldn't you just encrypt the .......signal
death_knight 11-17-2005, 11:36 PM Yeh i mean there must be another method other than mac filtering, it really can be annoying, imho.
Profound 11-18-2005, 05:16 PM Virus, RADIUS and 802.11x are the same thing in wireless, not separate entities.
Encrypting your signal, aka SSID hiding, isn't a sure fix. If you can sniff packets you can hack into the network. WPA PSK has already been exploited, but the IEEE pretends it is still the strongest. There are ways to even fake a legitimate MAC address.
They have to do what they can to protect you. Imagine a virus breaking out on that glorified LAN, how would that make you feel. Better lock down that lock up shop due to exploitation.
Profound 11-20-2005, 07:19 PM Something fresh to discuss here is how to build a WAN server. Being that I want the WAN party to be a success we may have more than 16 people. If that happens then we need to broaden our horizons.
Tools to have:
High Speed internet connection with unique external IP
Domain name (provided free dyndns)
There are several options that can be chosen. You could bridge all the networks together through a nice little vpn using the domain names. This simulates a nice and secure extended LAN. (Complicated)
You could have one connection/machine function as a server. Therefore all games are hosted on a particular domain. It would require all other connections to dial into the server. This means that you have to build a neat little crack server for each game you intend to play. A crack server for CS, Brood, Ut2k4 and WC: Frozen Throne. (difficult)
A lot of options to consider.
Virus 11-20-2005, 07:42 PM @ VPN - What about overhead? Everybody would need at least 512k to run UT, Frozen throne without hitching... dont know bout CS.
Profound 11-20-2005, 10:08 PM Hmmm, possibly.
The real factor wouldn't be the download virus but the upload.
Virus 11-20-2005, 10:56 PM Upload speed of what? the server or the client. Cuz if its the client u would really need 512 minimum.
Cw 512 , gives bout 9kbps upload. Dont want to imagine the 128 package.
Profound 11-20-2005, 11:37 PM Actually the 128 package gives maximum 6.4 while the 512 gives max 12. The 1024 package gives about 25.6.
I wonder, is it possibe to bridge two hamachi networks through one person. It is possible to be connected to more than one hamachi networks. Therefore a game creator should be able to connected different people to his own game. Someone needs to help me test that.
Enigma 11-21-2005, 07:50 AM ......... Someone needs to help me test that. I'm game... I'll link u when i can.
Virus 11-21-2005, 12:07 PM Actually the 128 package gives maximum 6.4 while the 512 gives max 12. The 1024 package gives about 25.6.
Theoretically, u should be gettign that but the overhead will give u less.
Also what about latency? Hopefully dec 17 is one of those good nites..
Im willing to test as well. But we need more users to test the hamachi with some of these games, UT, craft FT... im a bit skeptical. All now mi nuh know if CS work with hamachi....
death_knight 11-21-2005, 12:15 PM Upload speed will not be addressed in jamaica for now.. All everybody speaks of its "download download download speeds" When doing web development and having to ftp large files its such a head ache, Faster upload speeds are needed"
Enigma 11-21-2005, 08:55 PM Upload speed will not be addressed in jamaica for now.. All everybody speaks of its "download download download speeds" When doing web development and having to ftp large files its such a head ache, Faster upload speeds are needed"
Make a note to Santa DK.... Who knows maybe if you were good enuff this past year he might talk to the bigger heads and make ur wish come through :D
Profound 11-22-2005, 01:17 AM If you are willing to pay U$249 each month you can get 512upload.
If you pay U$149 per month you can get 384. I am more game for 384.
I am currently configuring a WAP to work with my Netgear Wireless. Headache.
Profound 11-23-2005, 01:42 PM How can people not know about torrents?
Here is a good torrent client.
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
It requires Java. All needed links are on that page.
Torrent clients use a small file that is usually ".torrent" This .torrent file when loaded through your client will cause the whole file sharing process. If you want to understand how it works it is best you do a google for how torrents work.
The main thing to remember is that it is a file sharing tool which splits large files into smaller manageable pieces that make for easier transfers. The more persons with all the pieces the more can be had simultaneously. Therefore if we have five seeders totally dedicated to seeding and they all can upload at 10k, then you will be able to download at 50k if you are the only leecher.
Also, while you leech you help to share the files you have already downloaded from the seeders.
death_knight 11-23-2005, 03:41 PM If you are willing to pay U$249 each month you can get 512upload.
If you pay U$149 per month you can get 384. I am more game for 384.
I am currently configuring a WAP to work with my Netgear Wireless. Headache.
didn't know those up speeds existed in jamaica. I doubt i'll pay that much for internt ever though so... thats just a dream for me.
Virus 11-23-2005, 05:38 PM BitComet seems to work best for me.. 50 - 60k+ (512kbps)
Update from C&W
For u 128k users you can upgrade to 256k for US$2.00 more... so you would now pay $31.95 for 256k
Applies to new customers, existing customers on HS Lite, and ADSL Standard (128k without the contract)
Not sure bout the upload speeds...
Profound 11-27-2005, 08:08 AM Am I the only one who thinks that anything less than 512k is a joke? I feel slow on 1024kbps sometimes as well. Corporate server runs at about 15mbps I think. It is between 6 and 15.
death_knight 11-27-2005, 08:45 AM some friend you are :rant. i suffer with 150kbps and a emtpy wallet while you floss on your corprate servers. you know how much anime i''ld have with speeds like that. I"ld need like 1000 gigs of hd space
Profound 11-27-2005, 11:27 AM Exactly how Enigma feels every day he works the graveyard shift. DK, what we doing about the games for WAN party? You deregistered my torrents.
death_knight 11-27-2005, 05:36 PM the were never registered as they weren't uploaded ;). We have to fidn anthor method I know i'm picking them up from you guys. i'm meeting with blindz inthe week to get the craft cs is out the door and i'm getting the brood from pual in a few days along with craft.
Enigma 11-27-2005, 10:03 PM the were never registered as they weren't uploaded ;). We have to fidn anthor method I know i'm picking them up from you guys. i'm meeting with blindz inthe week to get the craft cs is out the door and i'm getting the brood from pual in a few days along with craft.
Hey now!!!! they were uploaded..... when i was finished uploading it it said ONE seeder. THen again i never really knew what i was doing...:rolleyes:
Virus 11-27-2005, 10:21 PM Am I the only one who thinks that anything less than 512k is a joke?I honestly wonder how ppl do it.
at least the 256 is a likkle better than b4
Profound 12-02-2005, 06:17 AM To the Speedtouch person trying to score some ports.
Internet Explorer> File> Open: 10.0.0.138> Okay
Advanced> A list of very neat items.
NAPT> New
Have fun scoring some easy ports. Also, check this link out. It is the virtual speedtouch so you can see how things ought to look before you dive into your own speedtouch.
http://www.speedtouch.net.nz/Virtual%20ST510v42/basic%20-%20system%20info%20-%20service%20info.htm
Profound 01-24-2006, 12:36 AM Nobody wants to do something fun with their network? Geez.
thelokat 02-02-2006, 03:57 PM give some examples of what you consider fun
btw bitlord over azeures, or however it's spelt
Enigma 02-02-2006, 04:24 PM Azureus i hate with a passion.... U ever try running that on slow machine?? or even one that is not all that new? It's HELL!!!!! When i do choose to use torrents i use Bitcomet (http://www.bitcomet.com/) Its not too intrusive butt hen again u need to ask ppl who really use torrents... I'm kind of old school i like irc.. BUT i am coming around to liking torrents.
Profound 02-02-2006, 04:45 PM Azureus rules. Nuff said. I think I am pretty much the King of Azureus though. All the others are interesting- but Azureus rules. Why does it rule? It rules becaue the UPnP interface works well with it and it makes port forwarding a breeze because it connects the way it should. I mean I am using a Nat/SPi firewall as well as the Xp SP2 firewall but Azureus gives me all green.
Lexlimitles uses bitcommet I think. Whatever makes people happy I guess. Thelokat- no idlness please.
Shini 02-02-2006, 09:30 PM yea so.. what port number should I use?
Profound 02-02-2006, 09:37 PM Typically the Torrent port is 6881-6889 but major sites have banned it. I use 65355. I think. When I get home I will check. I would remote control but im not filling up no off the board sheet.
Shini 02-02-2006, 09:45 PM OMG im still logged in.
Ok, so when you getting home? Im wasting precious download time.. you understand.
So put 65355?
Profound 02-02-2006, 09:46 PM Put it in Shini, Put it in.
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As good as that felt to say I have to also add: type of internet connection? type of modem? type of software firewall?
Shini 02-02-2006, 10:02 PM uh huh.. say it while you can.. im sure you dont get to otherwise. :p
512 dsl.. the black speedtouch :p I dont have the box now to tell you which one exactly.
No firewall.
Profound 02-02-2006, 10:26 PM You can read/search this thread for port forwarding tips for that modem.
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Did it for you:
http://www.animesynergy.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3833&postcount=67
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Put it EEEENN!!! (your browser's address bar.)
Shini 02-02-2006, 11:05 PM and then? O_o
That url not working.. and me downloads still not dling!!!! *cries*
Profound 02-02-2006, 11:20 PM That url not working.. and me downloads still not dling!!!! *cries*
I tested it awhile ago and had great success.
To the Speedtouch person trying to score some ports.
Internet Explorer> File> Open: 10.0.0.138> Ok
Advanced> A list of very neat items.
NAPT> New
Have fun scoring some easy ports. Also, check this link out. It is the virtual speedtouch so you can see how things ought to look before you dive into your own speedtouch.
http://www.speedtouch.net.nz/Virtual...ice%20info.htm (http://www.speedtouch.net.nz/Virtual%20ST510v42/basic%20-%20system%20info%20-%20service%20info.htm)
Shini 02-02-2006, 11:44 PM Ok, so in that page, what exactly am i suppose to do?
Profound 02-04-2006, 12:00 AM On that page you need to open the port and set it to your machine. The port that you open is the same one for the azureus programme.
Shini 02-04-2006, 12:09 AM Ok i got it working now. Thanx so much for your help and patience!!!! :D
thelokat 02-04-2006, 02:16 PM Azureus rules. Nuff said. I think I am pretty much the King of Azureus though. All the others are interesting- but Azureus rules. Why does it rule? It rules becaue the UPnP interface works well with it and it makes port forwarding a breeze because it connects the way it should. I mean I am using a Nat/SPi firewall as well as the Xp SP2 firewall but Azureus gives me all green.
Lexlimitles uses bitcommet I think. Whatever makes people happy I guess. Thelokat- no idlness please.
explain how i was idling? i was asking in all seriousness what you consider "fun" with a network, and my personal preference is bitlord over every other torrent program, it's the one i started out with and has never given me any problems
Profound 02-04-2006, 02:26 PM Sorry lokat. I was still upset with you from my other threat- add your story.
Fun things: remote access, wireless technology, 802.11x, p2p, desktop sharing- those are hours of fun. WAN that feels like LAN is also quite fun. Until then though I will gladly answer queries people like Shini want to have answered.
thelokat 02-04-2006, 02:43 PM ah ok
question..bit is it possible to bounce over wireless networks? say that i'm at one end of the range from a wap and a friend with another laptop is at the other, if he was using his laptop to connect to a private workgroup with someone outside of the range of the wap (obviously, cuz then we would all be on the same network anyway) would i be able to connect thru him to that network?
WAP limit___me________him_______WAP limit ________outside network
(__________a__________b_______________)___________ ___c
b is connected to c, and a is connected to b, can i connect thru b to c? (simplified version, lol)
Profound 02-04-2006, 04:26 PM Short answer- yes.
Long answer- You have a variety of options for a to connect to c. A could remotely control b and hence use the resources for c. If 'a' wants his own credentials he won't be able to use 'b' as a node for the server. Simply, b is a vpn client and not a server or gateway.
What may happen is that if b is on two networks he could be sharing shared resources on both networks. People like a wouldn't be able to see what c has though because of possibly different subnets- but b would see everything.
Additionally, if it is a private, secured network for 'c' then 'a' wouldn't get in anyways.
thelokat 02-04-2006, 04:44 PM remotely controlling it kinda defeats what i had in mind...but thanks
Profound 02-04-2006, 05:07 PM I don't see why that would work.
A and C have nothing in common. C doesn't even want A because C never gave A the credentials to access C. B is an innocent bystander who uses a secure IP tunnel to get to C. Unless A is going to hack B then A cannot get to C. B isn't going to be able to facilitate A any other way.
Virus 02-04-2006, 09:49 PM Why is it that ADSL wont work on pair gain or lines going thru a PBX?
Also ur friend seems to think the internet was created by the Swiss...
Plzz set the record str8
Profound 02-04-2006, 09:53 PM Pair-gain- two voice only lines joined together. Therefore, no space for DATA.
PBX- one voiceline with all the channels utilized for voice to create other extensions. Therefore chance of a steady line sync is next to zero.
thelokat 03-01-2006, 08:12 PM annoying problem, i guessed this is near to the best place to put it...seeing the internet is just a big network, i'm having trouble with my certificates...it keeps saying that my google and messenger certificates have expired...i'm not sure why it would say that but it does, more or less that means i can't use google talk/msn messenger, however i can still access my email cuz the browsers will just push on...going to get some spybot updates and bitdefender updates to see if it's some kinda virus etc...if it is then that would suck...it would mean zone alarm has failed me
thelokat 03-01-2006, 08:38 PM of all the F***ING things....grrrr....it's fixed...
henderson 03-01-2006, 08:41 PM i used to get those same messages and no matter what i couldn't sign into msn messenger, turns out i had back dated my machine and once i corrected the date and restarted it was fine....thats sounds too simple still but i guess the networking guru will be able to shed better light on the situation..
thelokat 03-01-2006, 08:48 PM nope, same situation as yours henderson, lol...ahh boy, Gates fi dead
Profound 03-05-2006, 05:15 PM I have been sitting on it for ages and I can't figure it out. I am assuming you did the obvious and disabled the check for revocation of the certs. If you did that it limits the amount of things you can do.
The internet is one big network but it is nearly beyond your control. It may be a browser issues- or are you getting that in firefox. Additionally, let me know what ur certificate settings are.
thelokat 03-06-2006, 09:54 PM i have no idea what would have offset the problem...my browser is set to ask my before accepting certs...my guess is my sister/s messed with the time settings and set the year back, because thats what the problem was
henderson 03-17-2006, 09:54 AM something gone wrong wid my yahoo messenger port cause i cant connect whether i using the yahoo messenger itself or even gaim..what is happening??
Virus 03-17-2006, 07:58 PM I mean really... go around a proxy? A proxy is the gateway to the internet on your network and you want to hack it and go around the gate. Imagine the proxy is a small hole in a thick cement round cell. Go around what? You would have to hack your way through, literally. Ohhhh, i think an apology is in order.
Hopster (http://www.hopster.com)
From what i hear you should be able to use msn, and those nasty words... B.L.O.C.K.E.D.
Take that biatch!!!! Muhahahahaha
Enigma 03-17-2006, 09:23 PM Ohhhh, i think an apology is in order.
Hopster (http://www.hopster.com)
From what i hear you should be able to use msn, and those nasty words... B.L.O.C.K.E.D.
Take that biatch!!!! Muhahahahaha
Now the problem with hopster IS.... if the security is so tight that they have firewalls and proxies.... u really thing they will allow u to installl 3rd Party apps on the machine to even ALLOW u to bypass some of thier security???
henderson 03-19-2006, 01:10 AM suh no man can't help me wid mi yahoo messenger problem?
Virus 03-19-2006, 10:27 AM Installing 3rd party apps can be done, but u might get canned in the process... so i'll use my laptop instead
Gustaph aka coolie 03-21-2006, 10:06 PM i have a problem, i need to format a laptop but the optical drive is not reading any cds and using a boot disk is not working. I know it can be down via network but i have no clue as how to do it. if anybody have a solution I would apprecaite the help.
Profound 03-25-2006, 03:15 PM I am sorry I haven't been here.
Hopster may work if you have access to the admin profile on the work machine. You don't. They use Active Directory so your activities, or the activities of each machine, are directly logged.
Yahoo Messenger. What firewall do you use? Can another PC connected to your internet connection use Yahoo Messenger without incident? Answer those and I will get back to you.
Network Installation. If you are a network admin then you should have no problem installing programmes on a machine. However, to do a format of a machine without any bootdisk. Hmmm. External DVD/CD Rom drive? Have you explored that option first? When you say format do you mean from dos and reinstall windows? Enigma, back me up on this but won't you still need physical access to the machine?
Go with external burner. You can probably borrow one at the next anime trading day. Then again... You have to ensure that you can boot from USB. That is waaay easier to manipulate than booting via network. Do you see the option in your bios?
Command Prompt with Networking... how well do you know DOS?
Enigma 03-25-2006, 03:38 PM i have a problem, i need to format a laptop but the optical drive is not reading any cds and using a boot disk is not working. I know it can be down via network but i have no clue as how to do it. if anybody have a solution I would apprecaite the help.
To boot from network u have 2 options:
1. Use a boot diskette that will iniatialize a network conenction to soem sharewhere u have the install files --- but that won't work for u since u said that u can't boot from a diskette
2. more recent machines will allow u boot boot via USB or even network. and well u can take it from there...
What u can do is take the harddrive out of the laptop linka fren witha enclosure but the HD in there and wipe it.
After u wipe it SYS the drive.... and copy over the windows install to the drive. Put the drive BACK in your laptop it should boot to a DOS prompt when u turn it back on. After which u go to teh install DIR then voila.
Well that is how I would format it if my optical drives or USB not working.
Profound 03-25-2006, 10:27 PM Reason I suggested the USB is because I suspected you didn't want to remove any parts. However Enigma is the boss.
Virus 03-26-2006, 09:13 AM I've installed "stuff" on my work machine, but that was b4 i moved to the other building.
I dont use a firewall, dont use yahoo mess either.. but i dont think using 2 msn mess on the same connection would give problems.
You want to share the connection of the laptop(hopster) and use ur pc to access msn/yahoo???
Profound 03-26-2006, 01:42 PM Nobody is saying you can't install some programmes on your work machine. By work we are talking specifically about Cable and Wireless. As a matter of fact, numerous crimes can be perpetrated freely. However, what we were discussing (which I will not apologize for) is that you wanted a proxy to go around the rules of the firewall. That wont work.
Gustaph wanted to format and reinstall windows on his laptop. Somebody else had problems with Ymessenger and is due to give us more information.
Are we clear Virus?
Virus 03-26-2006, 07:48 PM Ok i get u.. you shoulda used the "@" symbol e.g.
@ Profound - I didnt want a proxy that goes around the firewall, i wanted a way to go to certain sites e.g. gmail, etc...
you need to search the thread and quote me.
The access u guys have is less than what we have. Over the other building there are a few machines with unrestricted access. 120% unrestricted
Profound 03-26-2006, 08:13 PM On another topic entirely:
Firewalls.
I am currently sampling Keiro Personal Firewall. Initially it seems pretty cool and light when compared to Norton Internet Security.
The firewall seems configurable and it logs every action. It knows how many packets are going out and it shows what programmes are connected. Interestingly though when I load Azureus it chooses not to recognize it. I receive a NAT error from Azureus even though I properly configured the port access. The firewall automatically blocks the UPnP from the modem and tries to regulate everything itself. I find that a little annoying- but then that is what firewalls are for.
When the firewall is off Azureus works as normal- as in no NAT error. It works as normal when the firewall is on except you don't get the green smiley but the yellow.
I no longer see DKs annoying ads, or any annoying ads anywhere because the firewall takes care of that too. I think I like.
Profound 03-26-2006, 08:21 PM Is there a way to get around a proxy server....
Im behind a proxy, i think its sorta creepy that someone knows that im writing this mesage. Keyloggers probably in the mix as well, the question is:
If im behind a proxy at work, and i can only go to "certain" sites can i build my own proxy server at home and point the machine to it...??
There are ways to get around the proxy server. A proxy server is intranet based though so don't think pointing to your home will work. To get around it you need to have some knowledge of how the policies at your work place are set up. Knowledge is everything.
A simple limited profile won't be enough and burrowing through
your proxy will cost you your job. You will probably want to have an admin profile. If your company uses Active Directory and RADIUS to determine privileges... then you have a problem. If they use mac filtering to determine what machine goes where then again... you may have a problem.
A proxy is your only gateway to the internet. Again, you need to give more info on the corporate networking structure to be able to burrow through ur proxy. The easiest thing you can do is get a programme that encrypts your packets. The server admin won't be able to decipher what you are really doing on the net.
That is where we leave the proxy/CWJ issue please.
Virus 03-31-2006, 02:48 PM How can i find out if my ISP is blocking a specific port. Calling customer care might be one way. But can i skip customer care?
I trying to forward port 4672 to 4670 but the software is telling me its firewalled. But thats not happening on my side
Also sometimes in Network Connections i see "Internet Connection" listed in the Advance Properties i see the ports of the modem. How can i get Internet Connection to show itself again?
Enigma 03-31-2006, 05:24 PM How can i find out if my ISP is blocking a specific port. Calling customer care might be one way. But can i skip customer care?
I trying to forward port 4672 to 4670 but the software is telling me its firewalled. But thats not happening on my side.......
I have those ports open on my modem from like 6 months ago.... I have them open for emule. I think u may need to look at the software again. As far as i know CWJ doesn't block ANY ports to it's customers.
Profound 04-01-2006, 02:20 PM Thanks for the support Enigma.
For the others, if you check this link (http://whoisprofound.blogspot.com) you may understand why I am so scarce.
However, CWJ does not block ports for anyone. You get an IP address (albeit dynamic) and your modem/router then takes that for itself and gives you a private IP address to regulate. The effectiveness of your own port allocation will determine how your programmes will run. You can go to this site (http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2) to check on the openness of the specific port. When the light is green it means that you have properly opened the port.
Be specific though, which 'programme' and which modem etc. Sounds fun.
Virus 04-02-2006, 05:45 PM Program = Emule
Modem = Speedtouch 536
The File Sharing Test revealed
Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!
One or more ports on this system are operating in FULL STEALTH MODE! Standard Internet behavior requires port connection attempts to be answered with a success or refusal response. Therefore, only an attempt to connect to a nonexistent computer results in no response of either kind. But YOUR computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND (that's very cool!) which represents advanced computer and port stealthing capabilities. A machine configured in this fashion is well hardened to Internet NetBIOS attack and intrusion.
Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
All attempts to get any information from your computer have FAILED. (This is very uncommon for a Windows networking-based PC.) Relative to vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer appears to be VERY SECURE since it is NOT exposing ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking protocol over the Internet.
I scanned 4672 and it says its open but that was for TCP, it didn't scan UDP 4672.
When Upnp was enabled it was okay, but after that :eusa_snoo
Right now im forwarding packets from UDP 4672 (modem) --> 4672 (pc)
not sure how to unblock UDP 4672 on the pc. Not a big fan of Internet Connection Firewall
Emule printout:
eD2K Network
Status: Connected
IP:Port: 72.27.25.***:4662
Kad Network
Status: Firewalled
IP:Port: 72.27.25.***:4672
Profound 04-02-2006, 06:43 PM Does this mean that you are not using a third-party firewall solution and that you do not have service pack two? I know that firewalls including the windows firewall block UPnP purposely- which many programmes rely on.
Seemingly you need to open some UDP ports. Guessing all the bases aren't covered. Going to do a test on a speedtouch and report.
Enigma 04-02-2006, 08:33 PM First off.. u don't really want to use uPnP.
From the SpeedTouch modem to open ur ports be it TCP or UDP just fill in the info in the right places.
U know what i was going to write up something.. BUT just follow the step from this page (http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/SpeedTouch540/eMule.htm).. you should be fine.
That page will tell u EXACTLY what to do to open the ports. ENJOY. IT is a SpeedTouch u have right?
Profound 04-02-2006, 09:36 PM I don't know why people always so cautious and security conscious about UPnP. I mean so it is like a front door for hackers to come into your system and make it a zombie. But gee, they make it so easy to do networking.
Virus 04-02-2006, 10:24 PM No i dont have a third party firewall or SP2 installed.
The modem is configured correctly. Its just XP friggin itself, somehow i feel this was ZoneAlarm's fault. Everytime i unistall that piece of crap i end up in problems.
Profound 04-02-2006, 11:26 PM Zonealarm sucks- I agree.
However, it just seems like your UDP isn't correctly configured and there isn't much else to do. Probably you want to disable ICF? I think we have suggested quite a lot and nothing is working out for you. If it is any consolation neither Enigma nor myself have the speedtouch brand. BUN OUT ALCATEL!!
Virus 04-02-2006, 11:44 PM ICF was/is disabled and it still saying Firewalled. I tried installing the free version of KPF but it crashed my pc. More than likely i gonna try get a stable version of Kerio.. :eusa_snoo
Virus 04-04-2006, 01:18 PM Ok i got it working now, i installed Kerio Personal Firewall and allowed UDP packets from 4670 - 4672 to communicate freely and the arrows are now green. Mission accomplished
Kerio... :2tup
Profound 04-07-2006, 09:25 PM True, Kerio seems to rock. All my programmes work flawlessly and I feel safe.
Profound 04-16-2006, 01:58 PM Okay:
Keiro doesn't quite rock my socks. I am not sure it is prepared to handle Bittorrent level traffic. The interface moves slowly and like a bug. It wants to log every successful torrent connection- as if I care. I tell it to stop alerting me, stop logging the event even- and it continues.
I don't like disobedient firewalls. Bun dat!!
I used to use Microsoft Anti-Spyware to defend against spyware attacks. Nowadays I can only testify for Webroot's Spy Sweeper. It isn't just about prevention- it cures. Cures I tell you! It does a thorough search and destroy by repeatedly scanning the problematic folders- because these files are able to move about. You need to give it a clear 1/2hr to 45minutes to do its thing. When it is done it is done, trust me.
Prevention always beats the cure though. So, combined, Keiro Personal Firewall, Webroot SpySweeper, and a good antivirus programme. AVG isn't impressing me much lately.
Profound 04-18-2006, 10:19 AM That damn firewall sucks. I uninstalled it. It is just too darn laggy- then it had the nerve to ask me to register... does it know who I am??
Anyhow, the best firewall is a hardware firewall- a real vpn, spi firewall...
Next!
Skillachi 05-07-2006, 06:29 PM arite this is a problem that has been frustrating me for some time.
i have a network up and running in the house, it gives me no problems throughout and people can plug in and do as they want and i still have no problems... EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE COMPUTER
It can see and transfer files to and from any computer in the network. But no computer in the network can see this computer. So to transfer any files to that computer i have to go to it and transfer from the other computers using it... (hope u all understood that) So anyway, ive done all the possible checks, everything is on xp. Everything is updated, ip's and subnets are there and checked... so wat now?
Skillachi 05-07-2006, 06:38 PM Also i think this is also the reason why i cannot use any bittorrent client on that pc. I could leave bitcomet up for days on end the file will not begin downloading.
Virus 05-07-2006, 08:37 PM Yea thats the situation with my dell desktop... Still unresolved
I have no idea why it does it, and i cant seem to fix it. Microsoft tells you how to do it, but it never worked for me. If it were up to me, i woulda format and update immediately, pity its the family pc.
Only thing i can ask u is if games on it (Yahoo games, etc..) Cuz my likkle sis. download a whole heap a shit on it and i cant b bothered to delete them since its the "Family PC". The games + zone alarm **** it
Profound 05-07-2006, 10:07 PM What firewall are you using on that machine?
I had similar issues with my network that were speedily resolved by turning off the firewall. Do you use a UPnP enabled router? Is that being blocked by a firewall? Respond asap because this sounds exciting.
Skillachi 05-08-2006, 05:06 PM No firewalls are on this pc... wait lemme rephrase that, i have uninstalled all firewalls and also i have shut down the windows firewall on this pc. The only thing up now is Norton (this is also the "family pc").
In terms of connectivity its only the speedtouch modem (whichever model the cheap one is) and a 16 port switch.
I tried the turning off the firewall thing cuz i thought that would've been the main issue but that yielded no results whatsoever. And also this computer doesnt have zone alarm installed it has norton internet security installed *shudders* but that firewall is shut down as well.
Enigma 05-08-2006, 06:26 PM Just as a test have u tried to UNINSTALL NIS ?? Reboot then see what happens?
Obvioulsy there is soemthign still on the PC that is blocking u. get rid of ALL remanata of any firewallu've had on the machine....
Reboot then see what happens.
Profound 05-08-2006, 08:43 PM I agree with Enigma's idea. It may seem brute force and useless but i've had to do a lot of crap to get through NIS and AVG Firewalls especially. Some things don't go away until it is gone.
Besides, if it is turned off it isn't really being used anyway. Try it and report.
Virus 05-09-2006, 01:42 AM Lemme rephrase, was zone alarm ever on the system??
If yes, u better believe that piece a shit software left traces on the pc
If no, just do what i couldn't... format
Skillachi 05-09-2006, 08:49 PM i still cannot understand your hatred of zone alarm virus... anyways, no it was never on the pc... ever, and i once again reiterate that computers which i run zone alarm on give no problems and zone alarm doesnt leave traces of stuff when i uninstall it... simply because your experience with it was bad doesnt mean everybody else's experience was bad. Please remember that the zone alarm suite is an award winning program and was placed high up in the list of cnet's cool programs list for last year (link on techjamaica somewhere bout the place)
I know that there are no firewalls running with the pc because i know all the programs that start up and run with windows thanks to a program called autorun and some other appz i have that i downloaded from Sysinternals (http://www.sysinternals.com)
this particular program allows me to see all the programs and other items that starts up when windows boots up and also dll's, things internet explorer starts with print monitors... everything and also allows you to stop it from starting with windows or change features... yow its a very very wicked piece of software that i now use when i am working on anybody's pc and they are having spyware problems.
There are also other programs on the website such as process explorer (which shows all the processes and not just the programs that boot), filemon, rootkit revealer, accessenum cho this whole heap a programs...
anyway, there is nothing running with the pc no firewalls no anything... what i am gonna do however is i am gonna either install zone alarm and remove norton or simply do what you guys said and report the findings... you will hear my progress in 2 days, gonna start backing up
Enigma 05-09-2006, 09:38 PM Sysinternals is da BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT Winternal's Administrator's Pak:bow should be a every TRUE tech's kit.
Profound 05-09-2006, 09:40 PM simply do what you guys said and report the findings... you will hear my progress in 2 days, gonna start backing up
I hope you mean simply uninstall NIS and report the findings. DO NOT FORMAT the computer yet please. Just uninstall the NIS and let me (us) know if you see the UPnP icon in your Network Connections.
Don't install Zone Alarm please.
Enigma 05-09-2006, 09:44 PM Yea Virus isn't the only one here who DESPISES ZA :mad:
Virus 05-09-2006, 10:42 PM remember that the zone alarm suite is an award winning program and was placed high up in the list of cnet's cool programs list for last year (link on techjamaica somewhere bout the place)Zone Alarm can shove that award..
i remember the days when my pc wasnt burdened, first piece of software i drew for were adaware, winamp, zone alarm, and couple others... Anyhow my world turned black after it took away my net access, then wouldn't uninstall.. couldn't stop/remove the service either, safe mode wasn't much help, neither was knoppix.. since it took away my net access i had to be booting in linux to get online help.. needless to say that didnt help much....
Pity it couldn't save itself from :icon_evil format c:\ :icon_evil
anyhow thats in the past, kerio keeps me satisfied nowadays
Whats the error you get, if any.. when you try to find the invisible pc by ip address
Enigma 05-09-2006, 10:58 PM Yea can u ping to the desired PC?
Have u uninstalled TCP/IP and reinstalled? (Windows can be funny like that)
Profound 05-09-2006, 11:03 PM Um if he is using WinXP he can't uninstall TCP/IP just like that. Additionally, I still think it is a firewall related block going on. I may be wrong though. Let us do things in order. Pnig test first, report findings. Uninstall NIS, report findings. Get instructions on how to refresh/reinstall TCP/IP in xp, report findings.
Skillachi 05-10-2006, 06:49 PM Um... i did a ping test... it found the pc's
Um... wat else was i gonna say... right right, i suspect is norton's firewall somehow doing something even though i turned it off altogether. So hear wat i goin do. I goin uninstall norton altogether and try seeing if it will allow the other computers access... but i want to replace it with another suite... since you all have some great hatred for ZA (i still dont understand why... it has never ever given me problems before) i will try out a new software. So tell me what to get
Edit: I am not gonna uninstall norton until i find a replacement so talk fast
Enigma 05-10-2006, 06:58 PM look uninstall Norton .. TAKE ur network OFF the internet and see what is what. See if that one machine can view whatever. THEN put on another suite.
I personally dont have any firewall on my sytem besides my modems firewall/NAT.
Profound 05-11-2006, 03:04 PM If you need a firewall you can get Keiro. I think I am the only one it decided to call in the tade unions for (go slow). However, just go Nat for a little while. We need to know what is going on.
death_knight 05-11-2006, 03:33 PM yeh i dont need one my isp runs a nat on the entire wireless frame work
Enigma 05-11-2006, 03:51 PM yeh i dont need one my isp runs a nat on the entire wireless frame work
Which if memory serves me correctly u found out the hard way:rolleyes:
Profound 05-11-2006, 10:52 PM Come on now, no more J2 bashing. I think we all pretty clearly pointed out how lame they are earlier in this thread :D
Skillachi 05-14-2006, 12:33 PM Lol boo fer j2!
well sorry profound but i already uninstalled norton the other day wen yatta told me to just do it and see what happens, and it seems it was the whore that was causing me all these problems as i am now getting access to the computer...
So what was the point of me turning off nortons crappy firewall anyway. cho
BOO FER SYMANTEC AS WELL!!
Enigma 05-14-2006, 12:37 PM FINALLLY!!!!!!!!!!! Zone Alarm and Norton Internet Security all fall under thesame boat in my eyes..
They will work fine for a little while.. then BAM!!!!! shit start frig itself
Some ppl head tuff ehhh?!?!?1:chair
Liek Prfound said.. try Kerio.. but it may start to act up eventually also.
thelokat 05-14-2006, 01:02 PM outpost firewall, try it out
link 1 (http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/)
also, a guide to using it
link 2 (http://www.outpostfirewall.com/guide/)
Profound 05-18-2006, 03:41 PM Yeah, firewalls are good for about 2 to 6 weeks.
I have never heard of outpost. Lokat report. If you think I am going to turn Jenna (my pc) into a guinea pig then you are mistaken. Maybe my mother's PC though... Hmmm.
Virus 06-17-2006, 10:39 AM Can i allocate a specific amount of bandwidth to the pc downstairs... they getting way too much speed. Speed they're not paying for. Preferably something free/ free
Enigma 06-17-2006, 03:40 PM U would have to use a proxy of some sort.... or get a damn good modem.
i dont really remember any decent proxies at this tiem though.
henderson 10-10-2006, 09:05 PM I need to setup network drives for specific users using a Windows 2000 server..any assistance will be much appreciated.
thelokat 11-12-2006, 05:10 PM just make a share and set permissions for them alone....can you give a little more description?
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