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Skillachi 08-08-2006, 05:45 PM Ok as i realize the bleach discussions are becoming lesser and lesser and naruto becoming more and more. I want to start discussing bleach again yay
First of all my theory
1) Ichigo will now have a full release in vaizard mode... Reason being, he has grimmjows blood inside of him, which will give him the power to open up a release which will be the way in which he can defeat aizen. This power will not be unlocked till the final fight with Aizen however or maybe just a little before when he fights somebody like ulquiorra...
Other misc point...
I was rereading bleach manga (well i finished rereading naruto manga so y not read bleach) and i realized that in chapter 25, we see grimmjow and the retarded arrancar that died first... dieroy or something like that tending to the grandfisher after he was pwned by ichi... Right there at the end. We also see grandfisher changing from a regular hollow to a ajuukar by taking off his crappy hollow mask and going in his humanoid form... hyyype
thelokat 08-09-2006, 01:22 AM seeing i don't have chapter 25 or the will power to go look for it, can you just plz post a pic of it here :D?
The R 08-09-2006, 01:55 AM oh fa real. maaaad. i gonna have to go look for tht.
Skillachi 08-09-2006, 10:00 AM Here are the pics
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/Skillachi/Bleach-03-09-17.png
You will notice grimmjow behind the hollow mask there in the 2nd row and also in the last row you will notice dieroy and another one but i not sure who it is or if it was just the same person
and below you will see grand fisher's ajuukar transformation
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/Skillachi/Bleach-03-09-18.png
MadHacker 08-10-2006, 07:12 PM post some links to dat Because I dont remember any of this
(OFF topic)-Yo mi boss I skillachi I see you make big post @ MH you turn traitor
Blindz 08-10-2006, 11:14 PM yeah skill, which chapter was that cuz me nuh remember that
Enigma 08-10-2006, 11:34 PM yeah skill, which chapter was that cuz me nuh remember that
Same here mi nuh remeber that!!!!!
Skillachi 08-11-2006, 09:43 AM Chapter 25, the problem is most of us never really started reading bleach manga till the SS escapades. Which is when anime was taking too long to release. Trust me, read over the manga episodes and you will see you missed out alot of stuff that is real important. I reread all the bleach manga (and naruto too) and i found this in chapter 25 and i was like... wicked fresh
@MadHacker - I posted at manga helpers cause i wanted to know what those people thought of my theory. Nothing will take me away from animesynergy we rock!!!
death_knight 08-11-2006, 09:47 AM same here i never saw that in the manga.. and i dont remember missing any chapters evar. anime i've missed but arankars dont exist in the anime yet.. well up to wha ti've seen (no fillers)
Skillachi 08-11-2006, 09:51 AM Thats y i am telling you guys to download chapter 25. More than likely you will get it over irc though... but its available on bleachexile
Blindz 08-11-2006, 11:49 AM dude, I have every bleach chapter, I have been reading bleach ever since there was like 5 volumes out, so I have all the volumes to the current, thats y I ask u wat chapter was that, bleach is sweet but I don't want to read over the whole volume
Skillachi 08-11-2006, 11:55 AM And i told you. CHAPTER 25! ARE YOU BLIND (dont answer that)
Enigma 08-11-2006, 12:08 PM dude, I have every bleach chapter, I have been reading bleach ever since there was like 5 volumes out, so I have all the volumes to the current, thats y I ask u wat chapter was that, bleach is sweet but I don't want to read over the whole volume
Can you imagine this???
Blindz can you rember the time not so long ago when we were trying soo hard to get these guys to look @ Bleach?? From before the anime was even out... and now we are getting shouted at :eusa_snoo ...bwoyy.... :rolleyes:
@Skillachi -- I shall look up chapter 25 .... maybe that scene waas just overshadowed with what else was going on in that chapter.
Skillachi 08-11-2006, 12:30 PM Yes i remember you and blindz trying to convince me to watch bleach... but haha the teacher has become the pupil... well in this case teachers
anyway here is the url to the chapter
Bleach Chapter 25 (http://bleachexile.com/download/manga/sub/download.php?file=bleach_025.zip)
A mussi draw unno tink me draw the ting. Dont worry i cant draw not even 1/8th as good as that
Blindz 08-11-2006, 12:37 PM ahhhh yes, just read it, didn't remember that at all mayb 1 day I do a complete re-read of bleach
Enigma 08-11-2006, 12:45 PM It would be nice to re-read the manga but dammit i don't have the time !!!! ggrrr....
Ohh BTW we know damn well u couldn't draw that ... ur representaion would prob be soem stick figures lol
*edit*
Damn Chapter 25!!! Is so long ago we so daddy pwn !!!Sheeeshh It's liek only yesterday. :D
Skillachi 08-11-2006, 12:47 PM How disrespectful of you!!!!
I would use photoshop and put the heads on top of the stick figures :D
Enigma 08-23-2006, 10:00 AM Question....
U guys should have read last weeks Bleach 239 already.... At teh end of the chapter we see Ishida back in the mix. IS he going against his father's wishes about the shinigami's ????
thelokat 11-25-2006, 06:38 PM alright ppl...revive this backside nuh? what unnu think is gonna be the finale with the bounto arc? don't say retarded stuff like "the main guy is defeated" no...i want to hear who you think going to beat him and exactly how
Linkin 11-26-2006, 09:22 AM I think It'll have to be the combine efforts of the current Captains of the Gotei 13. Kariya was fighting Ichigo's bankai with his fist O_o and the wind element is a force to be contend with. In addition to his new found "powers" It looks like nuff man gonna scream "...BANKAI". The Captain of the 12th Division, Mayuri Kurotsuchi, could use his bankai, konjiki ashisogi jizo, to poison him but then the story line would flop. The results may vary yute but all in all It'll have to be a collection of Cap'ns to help apprehend the fugitive but they should be careful, Kariya said he could nuke the place in like 2secs. Ichigo has no say in this because him can't beat the man alone, however, there is the shinigami scientist, Rantao who knows a lot about them, so most likely she would take care of the situation, however, her powers were sealed away and furthermore she's an exile but maybe they will have some leniency due to the gravity of the situation.
P.S. Is there a level beyond bankai that we don't know about?
Blindz 11-26-2006, 11:02 AM linkin, wat about Ichigos hollow side, if it get out then mayb him may have a chance, then theres master captain, the old man, him freaky strong, remember that. But I have a feeling that is Rantoa going to help them defeat Kariya
Linkin 11-26-2006, 12:40 PM His hollow side is unstable so that cannot be depended upon. As for Shigekuni Yamamoto-Genryusai, general of Gotei 13 and Cap'n of the 1st Division, I believe that, like Kisuke Urahara, is usually one to be found near the scene of an important event, but will never step in to intervene, preferring to be in control from outside. But like I said before it will be up to Rantao to determine Soul Society's fate.
Skillachi 11-26-2006, 12:57 PM There is no other bankai, but there is the possibility to have 1 or 2 or maybe even more different versions of your bankai. We know that for example mayori's bankai at first is the poison gas and then at second is the spikes. Byakuya has about 3 different bankai versions etc. the only person it seems with only 1 bankai is ichigo (oh yeh and baldy too)
Linkin 11-26-2006, 01:29 PM What you should say is that there're no other kai (release). There may be different varieties in bankai, even shikai but we don't know for sure do we? All we can lead off is speculation.
thelokat 11-26-2006, 03:59 PM what do you guys think kenpachi's release and or bankai going to look like?
Blindz 11-26-2006, 05:48 PM seriously, I don't want to c kenpachi-san's bankai, going to b 2 mad
Linkin 11-27-2006, 11:48 AM Well since he is more of the physical type and so is the nature of his zanpaku (I presume), so I believe it should look like Ikkaku Madarame's bankai is the sense that it doesn't provide any kidou, or increase his defense nor speed, however, since he already has monstrous strength it would be unfittin' to add more to it so I guess it may increase his speed, or provide some kidou (I have never seen him use kidou before). As for the shape of his bankai, I have no say, results may vary. It could even be the size of a katana.
Skillachi 11-28-2006, 03:47 PM Dem cant give kenpachi a bankai... cuz then them would have to make him the #1 captain. There is no way ryuujinjakka(#1 sword) can touch kenpachi if he had a bankai.
But that woulda be a wicked **** development though... kenpachi just jump in and seh bankai... worse if them give him a pretty up bankai like the pretty boy own lol kenpachi woulda neva use it lol
Blindz 11-28-2006, 04:26 PM I feel if them give kenpachi a bankai it wud b more like an atomic bomb, everybody dead
Linkin 11-29-2006, 08:10 AM Dem cant give kenpachi a bankai... cuz then them would have to make him the #1 captain. There is no way ryuujinjakka(#1 sword) can touch kenpachi if he had a bankai.
But that woulda be a wicked **** development though... kenpachi just jump in and seh bankai... worse if them give him a pretty up bankai like the pretty boy own lol kenpachi woulda neva use it lol
you obviously don't know much about first Division's Shigekuni Yamamoto-Genryusai, do you? Even IF Kenpachi obtains bankai he is still no match for him. Yamamoto's abilities as a shinigami are no doubt powerful, as he is able to bring 8th Division Lieutenant Nanao Ise to her knees and immobilize her with the weight of his spiritual pressure. ...I've never seen Kenpachi do that with the other vice cap'ns furthermore, he has much experience in ...pretty much everything, taijutsu, kidou, book smarts, street smarts (pardon the expression), the point is Kenpachi is a child for Yamamoto. STR8!!!
Skillachi 11-29-2006, 08:54 AM No man i am talking about power wise... ok check it out.
For genryu to be the number 1 captain that would mean that we can safely assume that he is more powerful than all the other captains. Also by what everybody has been saying (maybe true or false) Byakuya is the next most powerful captain (or probably one of the twin sworded guys. Now the reasoning is this. Kenpachi <= Ichigo powerwise (but only barely, as we have seen ichigo barely beat kenpachi so their power isnt that far apart). Ichigo also beat Byakuya(mind you his hollow side has much to do with this but i'll get to that in a second), therefore we can assume now that ichigo is more powerful than all the captains (except genryu). We also know that ichigo in his new hollow mode will be able to make food out of byakuya like he wasnt even trying (simply based on the battle before)
Now if kenpachi barely weaker than ichigo and shikai ups the users power times about 5. Then kenpachi in shikai with eyepatch off should be able to fight hollowgo in bankai (i didnt say win, i said fight). Now with a bankai kenpachi with no eyepatch, that would raise his power to x10 and therefore he should be able to whoop hollowgo's ass with ease. That alone puts on a lvl that he should be able to beat up on genryu simply based on power (as we all know power alone can never win a battle however)
edit: I have been thinking about this thing and there is a mistake i made... i soon tell unno bout it.
thelokat 11-29-2006, 10:12 PM nah sah, the two twin bladed captains were ready to take on the old guy, hence i'm assuming they thought that they could survive and/or win the fight, that means that either they posses far more power than we have given them credit for or that the old guy isn't as powerful as we thought, in either case kenpachi first release should be something horrible to be behold...i think sandal hat should help out kenpachi and use the same training technique to release his bankai, or at least something to help with the first release...i just get the feeling though that he only figures out how to use it in battle....like he has to face off with Gin or something and when he starts to lose he starts to believe less in his own power and more in the power of his slayer, willing to accept help or something along those lines, and in that instant he will hear his swords voice, and buss out TEH ultimate shits *wipes drool away*
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